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« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2002, 02:04:21 PM »

Luchnia,
You are bang-on about this.

Wierder yet - I will apply and apply at a certain cable company and like you - Ive run my own business for years, put a year of study into IT at my own expense, done every proper resume and interview technique you can think of...only to be rudely discouraged from even phoning then about the positions opening -  then found out they hired someone with absolutley NO experience at all! (often because someones Dad knew someone elses Dad wink wink)



I dont think you are being bitter and Im not either, its just amazing sometimes to see how these companies HR people work.

This will probably amaze you, but, you actually have it good in the US!  Canada is just horrible compared to you guys as it now seems that I cant even find an actual "help wanted' ad.  The new thing is these
'opportunities with blabla firm - please send fax ONLY.

'Opportunity' seems to mean they may or may not be hiring, may or may not be part-time on-call, may or may not tell you what it pays etc.

Like you say - its some strange 'hidden' world going on and you are just baffled daily by whatever is going on.

Sad really. Gone are the days of seeing a help wanted - apply within ad that really meant what it said

For what its worth, I once had a company take the time to phone be back and actually tell me they had hired someone else. I told the lady that I was so thankful she did, (because that really saved me time and wondering) that I planned to patronise her company more than ever.
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« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2002, 03:23:06 PM »

Wow...I sure am disapointed that things are bad where you are. Tthat reminds me of yet another thing that happened to me. I saw an ad in the newspaper for a position at a high school. It was a Technical Support position and was about an hour and 15 minute drive one way for me, but I was willing to do anything. I called them and asked if I could email a resume to them as a MS Word attachment, they said that would be fine.

I sent them my resume and about a week went by and I called to do a follow-up as I always do, to see that they got my resume. Well, the lady said she did not get it. I told her that I sent it via email while I was on the phone with her and then she remembered me. She then told me that she must have not opened the email! Sheeesh, go figure. Well, I said that I would send her another and I would then call to make sure she would open this one, so I did.

She said that she got it fine and would immediately send me out an application. I waited and waited and waited. After about 10 days and then decided to follow-up again. Now the job was not to be filled for about a month. I had a strange hunch that something was going on with this job, so I sort of disguised my voice and inquired about the position when I called them, as if I had not talked to them before. Guess what! Lo, and behold the lady said that job had been taken a while back!  

For the life of me, why do people have to lie? Why couldn't the lady just admit it to me the second time I sent her the resume? She would have saved me much time and I could have been productive elsewhere instead of chasing wild geese around.

This is the sort of stuff that I could do without. I appreciate honesty and integrity. Maybe honesty and integrity is a lost art these days.

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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2002, 05:16:08 PM »

Yup,  that is exactly a scenario Ive seen to!
I cant imagine what they think they are doing and ive seem and heard this many times over.  What really frustrates me is the 'WHat' as in - what are they doing?  What is so hard about just saying that i didnt get the job or am not qualified.  why are all these wierd secretive games being played.

It really is getting sad nowadays.  Lately Ive been getting tones from receptionists when I make that follow up call (which used to be a very good thing) - now they treat me like Im interupting their business.  So I dont know what is proper procedure anymore.

Crazy world!
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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2002, 01:25:43 AM »

I think most everyone here has experienced that frustration with HR/receptionists/anybody else at one point or another. Pretty much everyone is inquiring about job opportunities everywhere and these folks are might getting a bit tired of it. Does it excuse the unprofessionalism, absolutely not! Don't get discouraged by it xonkers. Keep doing your normal follow-up routine because its a sensible practice every serious job hunter does.

And yes, the A+ does count for something. It establishes your basic knowledge of the inner workings of pc hardware and familiarity of OSes. Normally, its the beginning of a long road in acquiring more knowledge and experience recognized by other certifications.
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