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« on: December 17, 2000, 04:58:00 AM »

Well cadman,  what are you're plans for this one?  What materials are you going to use?

Cadman, I think I'll get a hold of the MOC for the class and the 70-220 Transcender.  Maybe I'll get the MCSE Training Kit as well.

Cadman, good luck! Thanks!

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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2000, 06:45:00 AM »

OK, Cadman
I'll listen to you.  I currently have my MCSE in 4.0 and have taken the 1560 course for accelerated Windows MCSE (2000.)  I have been loathe to attempt the 70-240 test as I have heard nothing but bad news from those who have tried in the past (including several instructors.)  I checked out your other site and was impressed as far as 4.0 material.  I agree that someone should step forward and make this site rock.  Especially in light of the fact that 4.0 will soon be retired.  I have been reading posts from other sites that encourage, if not blatantly require, the perusal of the resource kit for server and "Inside Windows 2000 Server" by William Boswell.  Keep us posted on your journey to the ultimate certification!
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2000, 04:22:00 PM »

Hello Usnretired,

I know how you feel about the 240.  I went the individual exam route.  Before attempting the 240, I would make sure you have a handle on the objectives for the 216 and 217 exams.  The 216 was my hardest one yet.  The 210 and 215 aren't too bad.  The 217 was AD and wasn't bad, either.  Different people click on different things, so you may find it otherwise.

The resource kit is definitely a great resource.  But it is the pits as a study guide.  Everything you want to know is in the resource kit, but it's 7,000+ pages of heavy reading.  When you can't figure out an answer for a question in a study guide, go to the resource kit.  Again, you don't need it, it is NOT an exam study guide.  If you're going to be a serious administrator, you'll have this at some point.

For these designing exams it's important to familiarize yourself with the format.  The 219 is passable after taking 217 if you know the layout of the designing exams.  Some people have complained about not having enough time.  I think it is probably more because of being caught by surprise on the format.  

On each scenario, I used the 'All' tab to list the whole thing (the different tabs will drive you bonkers).  I jotted down key points and objectives, sketched out diagrams, etc.  Then I went through the questions and answered some right off the bat.  Jotted down questions I needed more info on and went back to the All tab in the scenario.

The Transcender for 219 does a great job of laying out the exam format for you, but don't expect to see any of the Transcender scenarios on the real exam.

I have to admit, I haven't really started studying for the 220 yet.  I don't have the MOC, Transcender, or other study material.  I have completed my initial goal, which was to upgrade my MCSE to W2K by 12/31/00.  I have one elective to take by 12/31/01 to replace a retiring one.  I will probably use 220 or 221 (heck, as a trainer, I'll probably end up with both).  



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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2001, 02:46:00 AM »

Usnretired don't be discouraged I'm in the same "boat" as you I'm taking the 70-240 in 7 weeks-2 days 4 weeks after I conquer 70-081 with PasleySkye) and if there's anything I/we can do to help your confidence then please ask.

Cadman, Freak & myself are keeping each other up to date with what we find if you would like to join our happy throng then please email me amd all will become clear.


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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2001, 06:11:00 AM »

I have the  exam cram bookfor that one. I look at it from time to time when I can muster the courage. I look at it but I don't really open it you know  Smiley
I will probably have to take both the 220 and 221 to teach them as well, and my proxy server cert will also retire soon.
Like cadman I chose the individual exams route. I felt it was easier to manage my studying time that way, to focus on each separate exam. I have one more to go -- the 216 --for the core, then off to a design one, or maybe an elective right of the bat.
Or I may take 2 design ones and use the 2nd one as an elective.
Any suggestions?

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