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« on: August 26, 2003, 04:43:04 PM »

I have completed three mcp exams, 210, 215, 216, and soon I will take 218 to get my mcsa certificate.

I need your help to choose the best MCSE certification path (shortcut) toward the 2003 server certification, and what is the exam I should do to get the +Security certification.

Thank you Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2003, 06:46:08 PM »

To get the MCSE Security designation, you have to take 214, 220 and 227.
http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/mcp/mcse/windows2003/
Do you still need to take 217? If you want the MCSE Security Designation, you are going to wind up taking 8 tests if you include 218.

I think you may be better off finishing MCSE 2000 then taking two upgrade exams for MCSE 2003. But please review the link above, there may be a workaround that I am not picking up from a brief overview of this doc.
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2003, 06:46:51 PM »

For your MCSE you'll need 217, a design class and 1 elective.

For the :Security you'll need 220, 214 and either 227 or Security+

For MCSE2003 you'll need 292 and 296.

My suggested order to achieve all goals:
217, 220, 214, 227, 292 and 296

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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2003, 10:18:38 PM »

Hi Adam,

If you want to have:
- MCSA 2000: Security
- MCSE 2000: Security
- MCSA 2003
- MCSE 2003

You'll need to pass:
- 210
- 215
- 216
- 217
- 220
- 214
- 227
- 218
- 292
- 296

Good luck!
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2003, 05:49:59 AM »

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Originally posted by jeff_j_black

Do you still need to take 217?


Yes, I forgot to tell that I will off course take that 217 after 218, for the MCSE core.

so after that I need  
- 220
- 214
- 227
 for MCSE 2000 +security

and
- 292
- 296
 for upgrading to 2003 +Security , is that correct?

seems to be a loooong road:rolleyes:
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2003, 10:18:58 AM »

Yes, that's correct anthony and TB's posts confirm it. As far as being a long road, well yes, but look at it this way:
You pass 218, you're MCSA.
Finish your cores with 217.
From there, I would say what you have ahead is in this order hardest to easiest 214, 227, 220. I say that because 214 goes into more detail than 220 does in terms of current security technology. Once you pass 214, you should look to take 220 soon after. I have not heard that 227 is particularly difficult. It will just be new software to learn.
You will get your MCSE when you pass 220. You will get your Security+ when you pass 227.
When you get this far, chill for a week or two, get your lab in order, make sure you can run 2003 on your lab computers, etc.
Then get started with 2003.

From my experience with 290, 291 and 297, I can seen that most of my prep is done for 292 and 296. Passing 290 and 291 gave me MCSA 2003, so of course I won't be taking 292. But, it is listed as a prerequisite for 296, so I wanted to review the topics.

By the time you get to MCSE + Security you will be on a roll, just get the exam objectives and course descriptions from the MS site and well, no these tests aren't easy, but they sure are a lot easier than having to take 4 to 6 more tests for MCSE 2003.

Best of luck and let us know if we can help.
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2003, 11:16:11 AM »

Thank you everybody for this valuable help Smiley
 we will be in contact Wink

and good luck Jeff in your 2003 path Smiley
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