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« on: August 06, 2003, 11:30:22 AM »

Here's a question, how much do the latest and greatest Network Administrators make these days, please tell me its worth 4 years of college and a CCIE badge
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2003, 01:59:57 PM »

ummm, let me see ... the way the economy and job situation is ... maybe they'll give you $10/hr.  Well, maybe more, i'm just kidding.
But I wouldnt be surprised if someone with College degree, high level certs, would take a job for $10/hr (while they get a better one of course).

But it's so crazy nowadays.  Most job interviews I have been to, the pay is between $28,000 to $33,000 year and requirements is BS in computer science, 2+ years experience, and they want to KNOW just about everything ... and as your job role, you would be doing SOOOO MANY things that would deserve a salary in the $50k range.
But oh well, it's tough right now, cant complain.  Just suck it up, keep learning and wait for the right opportunity (and believe me, they do come by).

Just keep your head up, and have Faith.
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2003, 03:56:31 PM »

These days you will have a very hard time paying back the loans you had to take out for that degree if you are employed as a network administrator.
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2003, 06:14:16 PM »

Very difficult to say. Just look at most internet job. They will tell you, different position, system and company offered vary of salary. Avg 35K +

About CCIE.. They make 90k+, but also depend on the company, position and job function.
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2003, 08:12:07 PM »

Network administrator must be a sucky job.  These fellas are in the wrong business.
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2003, 01:59:57 PM »

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These days you will have a very hard time paying back the loans you had to take out for that degree if you are employed as a network administrator.


I find this very hard to bielieve.

In fact its total bull shit.
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2003, 02:38:34 PM »

It is not bullshit, since that is what I do and that is the exact situation that I am in.
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2003, 03:06:47 PM »

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I find this very hard to bielieve.

In fact its total bull shit.


No BS. I've been in the industry since the mid-80's, moving up through the years, and right now I'm making about what I was back in '96. And I have more experience and certifications! It's a rough economy right now, and just landing a job isn't easy. I was laid-off in April of last year, and it took me 14 months to land my current position, a contract to perm, at less than $30k per year! I was making $45k before I was "down-sized"!
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2003, 04:06:08 PM »

Sounds like me. I have a B.S. in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science and an M.S. in Computer Science along with ten years of experience and half a dozen certifications. I make 35, 000 dollars right now and have nearly that much debt. I don't mean to be a killjoy, but not facing reality will not help.
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2003, 05:30:02 PM »

Why would anyone want to do that for a living?  No wonder network admin people are so bitter all the time.  My wife makes almost that much running her own beauty supply store.

There is a good living to be made in tech sector but it sure does not seem to be in network admin.  Frankly, from the dscriptions, it seems like sort of a dead end.
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2003, 08:35:03 PM »

I think it's a matter of overload . . . there are too many people with qualifications to be netadmins now and the companies can afford to pay them less. As the supply goes up, the demand drops. It may not stay this way, but the glut of MCSE's now have made things a bit harder for a lot of us. I work in the public sector so that makes a difference . . . jobs are more secure, but the pay is less. Sad
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2003, 01:38:39 PM »

Sigh if this is the case Its gonna suck real bad.   I dunno.   I will only have 15k debt after my 4 years with CCNP/MCSE and experience.  If i can't land a decent 40k+ a year job that would be sad.
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2003, 01:57:14 PM »

Well, there's no question about it . . . you are better off in the long term with a degree . . . the problem is that now _most_ people seem to have degrees and in the IT industry there are also many, many people with certs. So the prices that we get paid are driven down. So it's definitely not like it was before. So you stick withit either if you really love the work or can't afford to switch professions. In my case it's the latter. There is some work in IT I could enjoy but now my job seems more of a chore than fun. And I am still paying off my college loans. Add two kids to the mix, rent, and car notes plus the cost of living, and things can get pretty tight.
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2003, 05:40:29 PM »

Well that sucks, So im really not gonna make 6 digits after all eh? Even with A+, Network+, Security+, Server+,Linux+, CCNA, CCNP,CCIE and a B.S. 40k is the highest? If so then let me know, all go to plan B, Pornstar.
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2003, 07:53:08 PM »

I never said that it was the highest. I just meant that it's damn good getting a good job in IT these days, regardless of your qualifications. That's my experience. If it's not yours, more power to you.
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