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« on: July 23, 2003, 05:59:33 PM »

I'm considering upgrading my GeForce 3 64MB card. I've narrowed it down to 3 cards:

ATI RADEON 9600 128MB
GeForce FX 5600 256MB
Or Any of the GeForce 4 Ti cards

The Radeon 9800 would be awesome, but is too pricey. Smiley Any suggestions on which to get for an upgrade?
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2003, 06:08:07 PM »

hmmm I am pretty sure FX5600 is pretty underperforming, that's why so much has been placed on their 5900 because it blows 5600 aways by a huge margin.

9600 tho has been reported to be a solid fairly priced card with all around verified performance beyond some gimpy benchmark so...

truform is over rated tho...

that extra 128 mb of ram is non-factor.

I would go 9600.

ati's catalyst driver has been pretty good so that's no longer an issue in card selection.
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2003, 06:09:16 PM »

My Tip:

Get the ATI 9500 Pro, do the BIOS-Flash and have the 9700Pro for less.
( a Friend just did this)

Otherwise, i would go ATI all the way, the G-Forces are really not up to ATI's Speed.
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2003, 08:30:19 PM »

Even if you don't open the extra pipelines, the 9500 will still outpreform the 9600 in most of your games.  ATI messed up with thier numbering on that one.  But, that's what happens when you follow the same numbering set with both your preformance line and economy line cards,  as well as simply changing numbers on older models to newer models.  It's odd and a marketing nightmare.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2003, 10:24:40 PM »

oh ya, I remember reading about that on various game boards, but didn't care enough to take note of it... of 9500 being newer archtecturally than 9600 and the best bang for the bucks.

anyway, just thought I would back the others had said about it in real world app.
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2003, 11:05:40 PM »

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My Tip:

Get the ATI 9500 Pro, do the BIOS-Flash and have the 9700Pro for less.
( a Friend just did this)

Otherwise, i would go ATI all the way, the G-Forces are really not up to ATI's Speed.


I have never heard of that. Got any resources that explains what that is all about and how to do it?
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2003, 11:28:40 PM »

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I have never heard of that. Got any resources that explains what that is all about and how to do it?


Start reading here
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2003, 07:30:16 AM »

I would go with the 9500PRO, too. It's just a 9700 with a lower clock speed. Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2003, 09:56:56 AM »

Make sure your Mobo supports the 256 Mb card before purchasing
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2003, 10:25:32 AM »

I have been thinking about getting the ATI RADEON 9600 128MB for my new system Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2003, 11:54:21 PM »

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I have been thinking about getting the ATI RADEON 9600 128MB for my new system Smiley


please read the previous posts.
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2003, 12:54:27 AM »

Searching through Ebay, I'm seeing the Radeon 9500 PRO for more money than the other RADEON 9500's. Is there a difference between the two besides the price?
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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2003, 02:44:30 AM »

ATI RADEON 9700 Pro.
 It features 8 pixel pipelines, 256bit DDR SDRAM graphics memory bus, 325MHz recommended chip frequency and 620MHz (310MHz DDR) recommended memory frequency.
This is the fastest and most expensive modification. RADEON 9700 Pro chips helped ATI to win the leadership in the 3D graphics market at least until NVIDIA GeForce FX comes out. The graphics cards based on ATI RADEON 9700 Pro started selling in mass long time ago.
ATI positions its RADEON 9700 Pro as a competitor to the upcoming GeForce FX chip from NVIDIA.

ATI RADEON 9700.
 It features 8 pixel pipelines, 256bit DDR SDRAM graphics memory bus, 275MHz recommended chip frequency and 540MHz (270MHz DDR) recommended memory frequency.
This version differs from ATI RADEON 9700 Pro only by somewhat lower working frequencies. ATI positions its solution as a competitor to NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti4600 and its AGP 8x version.
ATI RADEON 9500 Pro.
 It features 8 pixel pipelines, 128bit DDR SDRAM graphics memory bus, 275MHz recommended chip frequency and 540MHz (270MHz DDR) recommended memory frequency.
ATI claims that its RADEON 9500 Pro features 128bit DDR SDRAM memory bus. If we take it for granted, then the only difference between this product and ATI RADEON 9700 will be exactly this twice as narrow memory bus.
RADEON 9500 Pro is positioned as a rival to NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti4200 and partially as a rival to a faster GeForce4 Ti4600.
ATI RADEON 9500.
 It features 4 pixel pipelines, 128bit DDR SDRAM graphics memory bus, 275MHz recommended chip frequency and 540MHz (270MHz DDR) recommended memory frequency.
This is the slowest chip of the entire ATI family. With twice as few pixel pipelines as by RADEON 9700 Pro, twice as narrow memory bus and lower working frequencies, RADEON 9500 can only compete with the NVIDIA GeForce4 MX family and a little bit with GeForce4 Ti4200.

more details here
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2003, 10:02:36 PM »

I've always liked NVidia cards, although the forum really seems to like ATI.  Reviews I've read have pros and cons about both.

Just be sure your motherboard can handle whatever card you're after.

I'm plugging along with my GeForce2, waiting for a good deal on a newer model.  

By the way, here's what Deja's link site says about NVidia... "the indisputable leadership in the graphics industry solely belongs to NVIDIA".

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Here's the link...

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforcefx-5900ultra.html

Both ATI and NVidia make great video chipsets.  Have fun choosing, everybody!
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2003, 11:02:50 AM »

Although it can be said at nearly any point in time, it really is a good time to wait before purchasing a video card.  ATI and Nidia both are going to bring out new cards in November which should bring down the price of the 5900 and 9800 cards.  I had a GF3 and went to the 5600 ultra, because I just HAD to see the female Twi-Lecks in Star Wars Galaxies better... I like the card a lot. Things look better than with my GF3. Not sure its worth the $170 I paid for it...

ok  I just re-read that part about Star Wars Galaxies...  I'm going to go shoot myself now...
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