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« on: March 17, 2003, 07:46:47 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2003, 10:06:38 AM »

Because when people get to the electives, they spread out a lot. Many people are only going to take one design exam. Hence, it gets real thin up here.

 Hey if you want to go for 220, you know I'll be there for you!
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2003, 10:37:35 PM »

I was wondering with the new flavor of security being what it is and since I don't have any electives taken yet. Ya think it would be better to take 214 and 220 to try and distinguish myself from the rest of the mcse's. that would leave me 216, 214,220
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2003, 10:01:43 AM »

First off, it's good that you would consider something along the lines of security.

I noticed on the MCP magazine site that their MCP Database has a check box for MCP Security. I assume that refers to 214.

How much will your choices differentiate you from other MCSE, in an employers mind? Even with security being a huge key-word in the employment market, I don't think Microsoft has put enough together exam-wise in terms of security to make it recognizable as a 'security' certificate.

Would you be better off by having this knowledge? Yes!.

However, both the 214 and 220 combined only scratch the surface, compared to the issues we face day to day on security. But it's a great start.

From an exam standpoint, you will be working with a lot of key concepts that are common to 216, 214, 220. IP Sec, Encryption, Authentication, Certificate Services, just to name a few will be covered on all three.

Should you do it? I took 220 as part of my MCSE and took the 214 beta after I got my MCSE. I liked the 214, because it brought a lot of fresh information not covered in the 220. My gut feeling is that you would find 220 pretty dang easy after taking 214 and might be better off taking 219 for AD design exposure. That may depend entirely on your background experience and how familiar you are with AD.

So I would heartily recommend 214, you have to take 216, the other one is up to you.

Personally, I think you will benefit most by tackling 216 first, take your time and really get a handle on it. This will help you with 214 and 220.
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2003, 12:28:05 AM »

so Jeff... what is more difficult? 214 or 220?
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2003, 12:23:15 PM »

I think 220 has still not been updated, at least I have heard it still gives a score. For me 214 was more difficult in two ways:
a) I took the beta, 90 questions is just flat out a lot of questions.
b) Like 216, 214 goes alot more in depth on a lot more topics compared to 220.
If you wanted to know which to take between the two I would say 214.
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2003, 03:03:14 PM »

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I think 220 has still not been updated, at least I have heard it still gives a score. For me 214 was more difficult in two ways:
a) I took the beta, 90 questions is just flat out a lot of questions.
b) Like 216, 214 goes alot more in depth on a lot more topics compared to 220.
If you wanted to know which to take between the two I would say 214.


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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2003, 03:40:17 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2003, 11:53:38 PM »

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More up-to-date material.


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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2003, 12:10:17 AM »

Wow, look at you Alex, just one away from MCSE, what is to be your last one?
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2003, 03:25:06 AM »

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Wow, look at you Alex, just one away from MCSE, what is to be your last one?


yes.........:confused:  i`m dealing with 70222, 70214, 70220 or 70224!!!!!! studyng a few of every MOC (I Take MOC courses one year ago about 222,220 and 224). now i`m making a hard studyng routine, as Server 2003 is already there and i`m worried if i can lost my MCSE without reach the status!!
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2003, 11:28:44 AM »

MCSE 2000 will not go away, but you will have the opportunity to upgrade by taking 292 and 296. None of your current exams will retire soon.
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2003, 11:49:34 AM »

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MCSE 2000 will not go away, but you will have the opportunity to upgrade by taking 292 and 296. None of your current exams will retire soon.


i`m planning to take my last mcse exam on first days of next month. thanks for your help.
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2003, 09:16:34 AM »

Yeah I took 214 beta, it was a flat out race to answer that many questions in time provided. I think if I would of had a more through exposure to 216 it would put me over, but was unlucky and didn't pass. At the time had just finished 218 and had basic understanding of material. I am taking your advice and taking 219 then 216 and then will either take 214 again or 220.  Already have the book and transcender for 220 so that is what I will probably take.
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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2003, 10:26:37 AM »

Yes it would habe been hard to take 214 without the exposure to material in 216. Best of luck, it won't be long now!
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