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1  General discussions / IT career women / Worried can I get my foot back in the door. on: December 11, 2002, 10:46:51 PM
Yeah I am planning to start testing my husband's first paycheck of the new year.  

I wanted to get into IT because it seemed like good pay and good hours.  

I took a 7 week training class to get started.  By the end of the first week I was hooked.

Things my husband rambled on and on about for years all of a sudden made sense.

Not only that they were interesting.

It was also soon apperant that while my husband's passion was hardware repair mine was Networking.  I am still excited about the idea that I can make this PC see that Pc or Print to this this printer.

I had just not been motivated to spend money on a test that I may not use.  

I have the persitance and desire.  Boy Proxy server taught me that.  

What is a letter of qualification? That is somthing that I am not familar with.  Sounds like I need to get familar with that ASAP.  


Originally posted by namrak
Now more than ever, you should be passionate about what you're getting into. If IT is in your blood, than persistance and a little luck will be needed to make it despite the slim pickings. There are some jobs available, but those with less than 5 years experience are definitely at a disadvantage. That's where the persistence and desire comes in which should lead you down the certification path. You already have MCSE on NT4, its only a matter of updating your skillset.

One thing I have noticed though, it will take more than a resume to land you an interview much less a job. More and more companies are using Letters of Qualifications to further screen potential candidates so be prepared to spend some time on your writing skills in case a company asks for one. Good luck. Smiley
2  General discussions / IT career women / Worried can I get my foot back in the door. on: December 11, 2002, 08:38:47 PM
the market here is really slow that is why I am worried.  I have put my resume in for every postion I have found that I qualify for. (Both of them.)

Thanks for the replies.

3  General discussions / IT career women / A not so young, lady (?) on: December 11, 2002, 09:39:51 AM
Originally posted by Leisha
I think you're no longer a "young lady" when you start to refer to other women as "that young lady".  Or....when salespeople call you Ma'am.....yech!

Then yes I am getting there.  I am called Ma'am alot but I have just started refering to other women as young lady and they are few and far between.

IT was weird for me not to see women younger then me as adults and not *kids* any more.

But when my *baby* brother and sister-in-law (both have large age gap between me and my husband.)   both turned 21 I had to admit that they were adults.  Heck my sister in law even has a child now.  I griped that she was to young to be a mom till my Step-mom pointed out that she was almost 2 years older then I was when I became a mom.  (SO she still was too young.  Smiley )  

Another hard one was when my son started school.  Before he went off to school he always told me that he was glad he had a *young* *cool* mom.  Suddendly I was old and uncool because his teacher was younger and cooler then I.  AHH stab me in the back son Sad

4  General discussions / IT career women / A not so young, lady (?) on: December 11, 2002, 01:07:28 AM
so how does one define young lady anyway.  I am feeling like I am starting to get to the point were young lady no longer describes me but when do I actually get there???

Just asking Smiley

5  General discussions / General Discussion / wierdest thing that ever happened during or on an exam... on: December 11, 2002, 12:59:33 AM
Originally posted by ChrisDfer
I passed. Now that is wierd.

For me it was like "I failed" would be the weird one.  

ESP since of all the tests I have taken 9 in all ( I know that is not many really...)

I had one beat me.  THat is okay after a few tries I finnally beat it.  Smiley
6  General discussions / General Discussion / how many o/s have you bought? on: December 10, 2002, 10:26:00 PM
Well call me goody2shoes...

but anything on my personal PC has always been a registered license not in use on another PC...

Now my hubbies mutiple PCS is another story.

But it helped that my former employeer had me in install about 300 PCs that were shipped with Win 98 installed and a Win 98 OS disk complete with product key.  The company had me reimage with Win 95.  So since the Win 98 OSes were already paid for (in the price of the PC) and they were paying for the 95 license as well.  (and yes they were the company was very anal about making sure all licenses were paid for)  the supervisors let us techs take home as many copies of Win 98 as we wanted as long as we did not sell them.  

So I took home abou 50.  gave them to friends etc...

Then when I upgraded my PC came with an OS.  

7  General discussions / General Discussion / wierdest thing that ever happened during or on an exam... on: December 10, 2002, 10:09:52 PM
ahh let me see....

I had that happen with the radio button...

I had the printer at the Testing site break so he was having trouble printing my results.

This was when I finnally passed my last test for my MCSE.  Had it been any other test I might have been fine with the wait.  Here I am wanting to SHOUT IT FROM The rooftops that I had conqured my nemmis (proxy) and I am stuck in the office.  

Finnaly I said I be right back got the Cell phone and Started Calling.  

Ohh and when I passed my first test it was on the last day of a training class.  I had just passed the test when who should show up but my dad asking if I want to go to lunch.  I was sooo excited telling him how I passed etc etc that I left the site WITH OUT MY results.  Silly me.  I even did not realise it till I went back to the site's classroom to gather my belongings when the insturctor walks up and says "Forget somthing."  

8  General discussions / General Discussion / A womans place is in the ..... on: December 10, 2002, 10:01:55 PM
YES the kids need to come first.

In fact that is why I am returning to work.  Cause we can not afford things the kids need on ONE INCOME.

Let's face it this has become a 2 income socitey.  

To be honest my *Dream* job would be this...

Tue-Saturday...  2nd Shift in the IT field. (needless to say I want to be an MCT teaching Nights.)    

That way I would be home with the kids during the day.  I would be off on Monday which is Scout night for my son.  I could be home with them till DH got home or take them to Grandmas for 1-2 hours tops.

I would still have time to Homeschool my kids.  I would still get to be an active part in their lives.  I would now need some help on the house but let's face it I do a great deal better then my hubby so I would carry most the house work.  (As it is he promised to do some dishes while I was at a scout leaders meeting and my meeting was over 3 hours ago and the dishes still have not been started.  So it looks like I will have to do them UGH I hate dishes Sad )

So anyway my point is that the kids still can come first even when both parents work.  

You have to just set your priorites.  Even if I get a first shift job I will be sure that the kids are not "neglected by me."

For one if I work days then Saturday and Sunday are Family days.  They are to be spent together.  Each child gets one on one time with each parent.  For my son that is Scouts for my daughter it is "princess training"  (Translation SHOPPING she has always been a born shopper.  She even calls grocery shopping Princess training.)

Kids are not neglected by working parents if nothing else the parents that I know that work sometime spend more time with the kids then parents I know that don't work because they understand more how precious that time is.

9  General discussions / General Discussion / A womans place is in the ..... on: December 09, 2002, 12:34:41 PM
Originally posted by HOOLIGAN
No, actualy we have come to an agreement, she will cut back on work while the kids are small. But I have to do the cooking.

I have some tips... StoveTop Oven Classics... easy to make great family meal.  

Or Hambuger helper.  

(I go for easy round here as I am a terrible cook.  But being home for this time has improved my culinary skills some.  I actually made a Turkey versus buying a pre-cooked meal from the local grocery store Deli.)  

10  General discussions / General Discussion / A womans place is in the ..... on: December 09, 2002, 12:04:00 PM
Well Programming is more my husbands intrest.  (Wish he would pursue it as a carrer there is more money there then in PC repair.)  Programming and me have never gotten along very well.  I don't mind some heavy lifting but I have to agree my husband is better suited for a great deal of heavy lifting.

As for women pilots my former step mother would have to disagree with you.  I think my father would have to as well esp seeing as how she was his flight instructor.  He is now a pilot for UPS.)

11  General discussions / IT career women / 70-215 on: December 09, 2002, 11:06:32 AM
Ohh forgot to add....

I have known of others that get bogged down on an "Easy" test and then come through the "harder" ones with ease.

It all depends on what are YOUR Strengths and YOur Weaknesses.  

To me one is finding a false sense of security to a test others deem "Easy."

Those "easy" test I have more trouble on then the "Hard" tests.

12  General discussions / IT career women / 70-215 on: December 09, 2002, 11:04:10 AM
I am so glad that you passed.

Like I said if that is the one that gives you the most problem then that will be the one that you are most proud of passing.  

For me that is Proxy.  I passed everything else first try.  That one took me forever!!!

13  General discussions / General Discussion / My 2 cents.... on: December 09, 2002, 10:04:40 AM
A woman's place is where she wants to be.  

I belive that the woman's movement was to give us a choice.

I have taken that choice right now to stay home.  We wanted our daughter to not be in daycare till she was at least two.  (Good thing we decided on that because turns out she has bad asthma and a weak immune system and her Dr said No DAYCARE and No Church Nursery till she was 2!!)  At first my hubbie stayed home because I made more.  However we had to take a reduction in income because it became very apparent that HE could not handle it.

No offense men he just couldn't.  He was fine for a time.  (WE have 3 kids and he started staying home before the 3rd was born to adjust.)  He was fine with the older 2 even homeschooling our son.  He was fine with the baby till her asthma and weak immune system turned up during the first Cold/Flu season she lived through.  Plus other health problems.  I think had she been healthier he would have been fine.

Anyway the jest is I have been home over 1 and 1/2.  Now I want to return to the workforce.  Not because I don't love being the typical housewife/homeschooling Mom, but because it is to hard to make it on one salary these days.  ESP my husband's salary.  I made 2X what he does and he worked in the eveinings.  

I am hoping to find a good 2nd shift IT position.  I figure I can make less working 2nd shift then 1st because then I do not have to pay daycare.  I can continue to homeschool my son (versus enrolling him in private school becuase we had a very bad experince with the local public school and him.)  

ANYWAY.... A woman's place is where she wants.  Just my 2 cents.

BTW I have always worked more with men and the little I have worked with women I can not STAND an office filled with mainly women!!  I can do well in an office that has a nice 50/50 mix, or all men provided that they are not sexist.  

My pre-IT carrer was as a sales clerk in an Hunting and Fishing department (Can we say High testorone area Smiley ) until I turned 21 then I went to work as a corrections officer for a MALE prision.  SO I can work with men.  It is women that only yammer on and on and on about their hair and their nails and thier makeup that I can not understand.  

14  Microsoft (MCSE, MCSD, MOUS, MCAD) / 70-088 / Thorn in my side.... on: December 09, 2002, 08:43:22 AM
THis is the test that caused me greif.  

It was my last test for the NT4 track.  I passed every other test first try.  (And I took an extra test.)  This one took me 4 tries.  EEK.  

I kept missing it by one question.  Hands on experince helped.  I would take trancenders pratice tests and then look up the quetions I got wrong.  Then i would go to the server and try to simulate or see what the question was talking about.  

That method still took me 4 tries to get it right.  

I think honestly time #1 and 2 I was cocky.  I had done so well with the other tests that i did not take Proxy as seriously as I should have.

Time #3 I was intimidated.  I found myself so afraid of failing I could not focus durning the test.  

Time #4 I was well prepared and I just kept not letting the test get to me.  I kept reminding myself that I had taken and passed 6 tests first try.  That I had not had any classes to help me.  That I must be smart to get that far.  (After all most my friends had been talking about getting their MCSE for years and still had not taken test 1...)

Anyway my point is don't underestimate the test that was my first mistake.  Then don't overly freak that was my second mistake.

It is a hard test but really to some degree they all are.  If it was too easy to get your MCSE it would have no value at all.

15  General discussions / IT career women / Worried can I get my foot back in the door. on: December 08, 2002, 02:42:53 AM
Okay here is the deal.  I am an MCSE NT 4.0.  I have been studying for 2000 but just have not had the motivation to get out there and take the test.   I have also been studying for my CCNA.  

The reason I was not motivated was I have been a stay at home mom for almost 2 years.

My youngest daughter almost died at 7 weeks old and I was told that she should not be in a day care until she was 2.  

The first year was really rough.  So when I was laid off I opted not to return to work.  

In a way I am kind of glad that I opted to stay home cause all of those that were laid off with me have not had steady work.  One friend laid off shortly after me STILL is out of work.

Well now my baby is 2 so she can go to day care.  I am feeling the desire to return to work.  I am regretting that I did not do more to pursue certification while I was home.  

So now I am finding myself scared.  I was only in IT for 2 years before the lay-off.  I figure the odds are stacked against me getting my foot back in the door but do you think it is feasible???

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