General discussions => Certifications and IT jobs/Salaries => Topic started by: walterbyrd on December 09, 2004, 01:27:39 AM

Title: Is CCNA worth anything
Post by: walterbyrd on December 09, 2004, 01:27:39 AM
I already work in IT, I have for a long time. I do systems work these days. I do okay, but the job market is tough here in denver.

I have an opportunity to take a CCNA class way cheap. If I take the class, I'm going to take the exam.

I know a CCNA isn't worth much. Would it be worth anything to me? I'm not looking to be a cisco specialist, in fact I would like to move from Sys Admin to Systems Management.

I already have a college degree, I have a few in fact: math, business, and comp sci. But, these days, employers seem to want everything but the kitchen sink.

I have some experience with cisco routers, not a lot.

Title: Is CCNA worth anything
Post by: smrkdown on December 09, 2004, 01:51:55 AM
The certification may not be worth alot in the industry, but the knowledge is.

Title: Is CCNA worth anything
Post by: curiousgeorge on December 09, 2004, 04:39:14 AM
I let my CCNA retire. I thought I might want to get into routers years ago, but I never really used it. Personally, I don't believe in getting certs you never use.

I also let my MCT retire. MCT DEFINATELY hurt me when I wanted to get out of teaching.

If you already have years of experience, certs you use, and a couple of degrees, I say pass on the CCNA.

Title: Is CCNA worth anything
Post by: phantomfreak on December 09, 2004, 08:16:03 PM
I say, it can't hurt to have it... but it could possibly hurt to NOT have it...

Do it, even without the class. Study for a couple hours and you'll be fine.

Title: Is CCNA worth anything
Post by: smrkdown on December 09, 2004, 10:41:43 PM
I agree that it couldn't hurt to have it. I disagree that with limited Cisco experience, the CCNA is only worth a few hours study.

Title: Is CCNA worth anything
Post by: phantomfreak on December 10, 2004, 01:07:57 PM
If you have vast amounts of hands on experience then it only took me a 3 hour sit down to review the entire book. Scheduled the next day, passed with a 929.

Too easy...

Title: Is CCNA worth anything
Post by: walterbyrd on December 12, 2004, 02:34:31 PM
I'm surprised to learn that phantomfreak. I have a lot of college, a lot of experience, and few certs.

From my experience, the sorts of things covered on certs, or in college, are very different from the sorts of things you learn on the job.

Formal training, especially introductory, is usually focused on background concepts, like the OSI model, as opposed to the "how to" procedural stuff that you would learn from real world experience.

I've known many experienced pros who would not be able to complete a certification exam without signific study.

Maybe you're just a lot smarter than most other people.

Title: Is CCNA worth anything
Post by: 117wik on December 13, 2004, 05:54:57 AM
if i were you, i will sit it... to be honest it doesn;t really matter whether you are a sys admin, linux support person, or even a programmer... being able to demonstrate a basic understanding of networking always help.. whether it's when you are trying to troubleshoot, or to look for another job...

and coming from a MS sys admin background myself... knowing more than just Microsoft actually got me further into other roles and that's pretty much how i got into doing security too... :)

good luck

Title: Is CCNA worth anything
Post by: phantomfreak on December 13, 2004, 06:59:40 PM
Since CCNA costs $125 US to take... and factoring in depreciation....

I would say its worth about $100 US. HOWEVER, the paper it self is worth only 5c.

Title: Is CCNA worth anything
Post by: walterbyrd on January 28, 2005, 01:10:33 PM
I finished the class just last night. It was intense: four hours of absoulute crammed intense training every night. It was like trying to take a sip of water from a fire-hose. I am amazed that a foundation level cert has this much information. According to the instructor, this course take two years to complete in high-school, or community college.

The thing is, I still have a long way to go. It will take me at least another four weeks of intense study to feel prepared for the exam. I am thinking I'll just take what I've learned and be happy with it - forget the cert, I'm not that interested. Or, maybe I should go aheard and finish what Ive started?

I do systems work: UNIX/Linux/Windows. I thought some cisco knowledge might help me advance, since it would demonstrate knowledge of networks at the router and switch level.

I've gone to the job boards and searched for CCNA. It's pathetic. Very few jobs even mention the CCNA, and the few that do mention the CCNA, just throw the CCNA into the bucket of "nice to have as an extra" catagories. What's more, the CCNP doesn't seem much more valuable, unless you have 5 solid years of experience to go with it. Here in Colorado, 700 people have just been laid off from Level-3. And I've just discoverd that the CCNA is taught in high-school - I think that
further devalues the cert.

As I understand it, the CCNA exam is dramatically more difficult now than even one year ago. And it seems that as the difficulty has shot through the roof, the value has fallen through the floor. That's the way it seems in Colorado anyway.

After taking the corse, one side of me wants to say: "forget the exam, take what I've learned and make the best of it." The other side wants to say: "you've come this far, don't drop the ball."

Any thoughts?

Title: Is CCNA worth anything
Post by: Kasor on January 29, 2005, 12:54:41 AM
I agree, the knowledge is very helpful and give you the foundation of networking...

Title: Is CCNA worth anything
Post by: vk99x on March 21, 2005, 06:30:02 AM
I would still study for the test and take it. I mean, nothing ventured, nothing gained right? Cisco seems to be the hot thing right now and I don't see how it could hurt at any rate. I'm currently about to begin studying for my CCNA and seems to be what companies are most looking for. According to my headhunter, anyone with a CCNA or above can start out at least $27.50/hr. I don't know about you, but that sounds pretty good. Good luck and don't give up on that cert!

Title: Is CCNA worth anything
Post by: dtoney on May 20, 2005, 08:02:50 PM
For anyone who wants to know, the most recent ccna test questions are ridiculously hard, and this is coming from someone who has been working in wan networking for 5+ years (and got my first ccna 5 years ago).  I had to take it twice to pass it, and I had to study for a solid month.

Title: Is CCNA worth anything
Post by: curiousgeorge on May 22, 2005, 11:28:11 PM
According to my headhunter, anyone with a CCNA or above can start out at least $27.50/hr.

Your headhunter made a silly statement.

Certs used to dictate your salary. Then along came braindumps and people with paper certs. Now certs are meaningless unless you can back them up with years of hands-on experience.

Title: Is CCNA worth anything
Post by: dramsey on October 14, 2009, 06:03:03 PM
I believe it was ˘braindumps÷ that originally devalued the MS Certs not the Cisco Certs.

Depending on where you are in the country, the salary money figure given may be somewhat accurate. For example, comparing Network+ ROI to CCNA, I think youĂll find the ROI is much better for CCNA.

Though itĂs true ˘certs used to dictate salary÷, they sure do help to MAXIMIZE your earning POTENTIAL during ANY economic climate.

So, my advise is to keep studying and take that exam (no matter how many times you have to) until you pass.

Remember, ˘ItĂs not how you start but how you finish÷.

Good Luck!

Title: Passing the CCNA 640-802
Post by: linabritney on December 01, 2009, 04:41:33 AM
Greetings All,

What are the best simulations exams for the 640-802 ?

I took the ccna 640-802 exam and received a 785 and needed a 825 to pass (44 questions). I prepared for this exam by making a lab with two 2650 routers and two 2950 switches. I read several books and completed both the Boson and Transcender practice exams with almost 100% correct on all the prep tests the first time around.

The problem is that the actual exam questions are far more complex then what the Boson and Transcender offered even though these exams are geared for the new CCNA exam.

Is there a better exam prep option?  Iam going to purchase certmagic.com 640-802 as i heared great reviews about them. Anyone tried them? Let me know plz