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Did not pass CCIE written
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Justin2112
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Registered: Aug 2001 Location: Golden, CO Country: United States State: Certifications: CCDP, CCNP, CCDA, CCNA, MCP, A+, Security+ Working on: open road from here
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Did not pass CCIE written
Hey Fellow Cisco Heads,
I gave it my all - did my best but I took and came short; I think by a good sized chunk.
Where I fell short was not in my study methods, or my material - it was in two things.
1) I studied too hard, I blocked out my family and that cost me.
2) The state of mind I was in when I took the exam. All my other exams I passed, my mind was primed for recall and patience. This exam I wanted to get through it, get it over with. 150 questions is a lot, and I think that is when I began to flounder, was after about question 80, I just wanted to get through it.
Now to the meat and potateos. Tons of multicast questions, Not a single question on a RIF ( that hacked me, cause I spent two weeks learning that ) Lots on MPLS. Lots on OSPF.
Break time for a bit - and when I pursue this again, it will be with a different approach and method.
Thanks for all your help. See you soon,
CHeers!
Justin
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01-18-03 06:31 PM
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Charly3
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Registered: Dec 2002 Location: T.O. Country: Canada State: Certifications: CCNP, CCDP Working on: CCIE
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"100% of the shots you don't take won't go in" - Wayne Gretzky
don't despair - you've make it this far, keep at it & you will succeed!
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01-18-03 07:54 PM
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mkhan
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Registered: Jun 2000 Location: Dammam Country: Saudi Arabia State: Certifications: CCNA,CCNP,CSS1,CSSP,CCIEw Working on: The LAB
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Sorry to hear that pal!!! go with the spirit next time remember God!!! in each step you learn!!! you will get thru.....
Have you gone thru all CCO?? one of my friend got the written with 79% by only reading on CCO mentioned in blue print.
heard that Dennis has a good show of CCIE (boson)in his prep test#3
Cheers.
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01-19-03 09:14 PM
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wirelessboy
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Registered: Nov 2002 Location: Country: India State: Certifications: Working on: ccie
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dear justin
just go for it , next time i am sure u will clear Q and also the lab exam very soon.
CCIE is delayed gratification, study, study and study and one day u will be ready for written and lab also!
all the best
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01-20-03 10:43 AM
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Mat P
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Registered: Nov 2000 Location: Yorkshire Country: United Kingdom State: Certifications: CCIE, CCDP, IPT Working on: Solaris.
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Hi Justin,
I know exactly how you feel, I took the exam 3 weeks after getting married, and after having a 2 week honeymoon on which my wife would have cut my B**lls off if I'd mentioned Cisco.
I was by no means prepared, fortunately my work put me on a bootcamp, out of 10 of us zero passed - one of these was already a CCIE. It's a hard exam, the only Cisco exam I've failed.
I only know of one who didn't pass the resit, and he passed on his third attempt. It probably helped that between attempts the pass mark dropped from 80% to 58%!!
My best revision was taking the exam and failing it, the resit (and everybody elses) was VERY similar to the first test.
Give it 2 more weeks, I'm sure your family will understand if you explain that once you've passed the pressure will be off you until you decide to go for your lab.
Whatever you decide, all the best.
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01-20-03 12:59 PM
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Justin2112
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Registered: Aug 2001 Location: Golden, CO Country: United States State: Certifications: CCDP, CCNP, CCDA, CCNA, MCP, A+, Security+ Working on: open road from here
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Whoa !
You guys are all so cool !!!! Thank you so much for your encouraging words. All of you are extremely kind.
You are right - success is not always measured by a test score. There is a much greater means to quantify one's happiness and how far he/she will go.
I will keep at it - and it will be even more valuable to me when I pass !
For now, vacation time - Lord of the Rings DVD and a cold one.
Thank you all so much - I cannot express in types words what your messages mean.
THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Justin
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01-22-03 03:07 AM
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mosam
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Registered: Jul 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Country: United States State: Certifications: CCIE (R&S, Security), CCNP, CCDP, MCSE+I Working on: RHCT/RHCE
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Yea Justin, don’t go right away to it again, have I would say 3-5 days break..
Go to the movie theatre or something with your family, with a friend.. I have been there before man, and I was so depressed cause I was just putting too much time and efforts into it, and was hopping by the test day, everything will be over. I t is just that sometimes studying too much in a short period of time, blocks the mind making it not being able to grasp or keep more information that it already has.
In order to get over it, believe it or not.. hehe.. I went back home, had a nap, then woke up, went to rent some movies.. guess what? I rented 10 movies and then watched them all one shot. By the time I reached the 10th, I was sooo tired, I went back to sleep again, woke up don’t know what kind of crap I watched, wasn’t able to tell my wife which movie is which.. all stories mixed together.. haha..
Took another two days spending time with my family in outdoors (park, restaurant, etc). When I went back to studying, I was so fresh, and took me a week only to go back and retake the test and passed with 87.
“Outdoors” man, go out and have fun for couple of days. Forget all crap about the test, just for couple of days, when you get back, I am sure you will feel whole different.

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01-22-03 04:51 AM
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tpanella
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Registered: Feb 2003 Location: Country: United States State: CO Certifications: Working on:
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Justin...I just flunked too!
I just got my head handed to me on the new written. Needed a 58 to pass and got a 47. I definitely studied the wrong material. I thought the test would emphasize OSPF, BGP, WAN and the basic Routing Protocol interaction. Boy was I wrong. 75% of the test was Multicast, IPX, Token Ring and QoS. I studied QoS pretty well, but slacked a bit on Multicast and totally wrote off Token Ring or IPX. Ooops....$300 down the drain. Anyone else have a similiar experience? As far as what I used, I thought the "official CCIE R&S Exam Cert. Guide" would be enough. Uhh, that's a big NO! Bruno and clan don't even cover half of what was on this test. Anyone else recommend something different for next time? Should I just say No to all books and print out all the links on the Exam blueprint page? I think that's what I'm going to do this time, oh, that and concentrate on useless protocols.
Glad to know someone else is as depressed as I am. I really thought I went into this thing well prepared. Hopefully next time.
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02-03-03 11:36 PM
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Mat P
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Registered: Nov 2000 Location: Yorkshire Country: United Kingdom State: Certifications: CCIE, CCDP, IPT Working on: Solaris.
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I wouldn't say no to all books!
All the usual books are still valid, Doyles' Vol 1 & 2, Halabai Internet routing architectures, Clark's LAN Switching. In addition I used IP QOS and some voice course notes - I notice Ciscopress hae just released a new voice book, it looks the same as the course.
I also used lot's of links on CCO - a lot of the questions are taken directly from here, the exact scenarios questioned come up in the documents - I think I metioned earlier my second try was almost identical to my first, this may have got lucky - who knows?
At least your being positive, with "next time" - good luck.
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02-04-03 08:34 AM
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MadChef
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Registered: Sep 2000 Location: Country: USA State: Certifications: Working on: A Sex Farm
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Re: Justin...I just flunked too!
quote: Originally posted by tpanella
oh, that and concentrate on useless protocols.
Why in the world you not expect to have to know Token and IPX as a CCIE? I can't think of a large client I've been to in the last couple of years who hasn't had some token ring out there, usually in a mission critical role. CCIE's are exactly the people I expect to know these technologies, since most of the people new to the field do not.
I don't think you should ignore the books, but to rely on a single one is foolish. The books Matt P mentioned are all good and I would add Caslow to the list. I would also add experience. The more the better.
MadChef
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02-04-03 12:29 PM
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