I just passed the INet+ test. Here are a few observations and tips:

If you have already passed the A+ and Network+ test, the INet+ is fairly
easy. I would estimate that 60% of the INet+ is in those tests areas.

If you work in the IT industry and especially if you are already involved
with the area of your certification on a day to day basis, you probably
don't need a lot of study helps; maybe only one for a refresher. But, if you
are just "going for one cert after another . . .

One study guide (i.e., book) alone will not do. (Now this irks me!) If all
you do is read one book (even a good book like Groth's on INet+) and that is
all you know, and you know it perfectly, you will never pass the exam. I
really wish someone would write the books to BOTH the subject AND the exam.
In other words the book should be complete enough to allow you to pass the
exam without having to go everywhere else for supplemental information. I
have found this with all of the four exams I have taken. No one book ever
comes close to covering all of the material in the test. Some books come
closer than others. But, some look like they were written by an author who
never even saw the test. Some don't seem to be writing with the test in view
at all.

I used Groth's book, and while it is very good, there are gapping holes in
the information he provided. He passed over (or ignored) some things all too
quickly. But, the test did not. Also, he had reams of material that he
thought was important which the test completely ignored. Still, I learned
from the book. I just wish the writers could get closer to the test.

Then there are all those questions and practice tests and braindumps out
there. Actually, I find more use for some of this in my own studies and
preparations. The most helpful questions and tests are those that not only
give you the right answer but tell you WHY it is right and WHY the other
choices are wrong. (And, while I am at it I would love for CompTIA to
explain THEIR answers on a few questions. I know I got a few wrong, by which
ones and why were they wrong. What good is a test that you can't learn from.
Yes, I know they give you a token explanation and they want to maintain the
"integrity" of the test. Yeah, right! Oops, excuse me for digressing.)

Get all of the questions and practice tests you can. But, realize that (like
with the books) some are better than others. When I took the Server+ exam
some questions and tests out there loved to ask you every stupid fact about
SCSI busses and bits and bytes. Guess what? The real test NEVER once asked a
specific question about the "esoterica" of SCSI dimensions. (Now, you still
have to know a little of that to help with a few questions here and there.
So, it is not like my cramming all that SCSI info into my head was a
complete waste of time.)

In general I have found that the questions that come with the Dummies books
(especially on their CDs!) and the Exam Cram books are better than most.
(Here is a hint: The test questions on the practice tests on the Dummies CD
can be imported into any word processor and reformatted and printed for a
great study guide.)

Now, on to the braindumps! There is a ton of stuff out there on the Web that
can serve as prep material. Use it! Any search engine will find almost any
of what is available. There are two kinds of braindumps: (1) The material
that others have used in preparation for the various certifications; and (2)
The dumps that people have written who have just taken the test and have
dumped their recent memories of the questions on the exams. I will address
the second kind of braindump. If it were not for these kinds of "helps" I
don't know if I would have been ready for the Server+ exam.

You see, I studied for the Server+ exam for almost a year. I used the
All-In-One, Dummies, Syngress, and Exam Cram books and all their CDs. I used
the Net and even wrote my 15-20 page study guide along the way. I memorized
every feature and facet of SCSI and RAID. I had already loaded my brain with
all kinds of A+ and Network+ stuff. I was a lean mean test taking machine. I
was pumped. I was ready. I had taken every kind of test and practice test
out there and aced them. Then a week before my scheduled Server+ test I
found a number two braindump. I did not know that it was mostly in the area
of the real questions. I took it and . . . FAILED! Ahhhhh! I went and
studied backwards from that test. I noticed that these questions were not
like the other ones. Hmmmm. They seemed to be vaguely familiar . . . sort of
like the ones I remembered from my previous adventures with the actual
CompTIA exams. You know, the funny questions. The strange way of phrasing
things. The impossible choices. The tricks. The traps.

Well, I went and took the test and there they were. Some of the very
questions I had seen in some of the braindumps. Well, well, well. So, I did
a little more study and found what you already know. You can get all of the
CompTIA tests (and every other test as well) from numerous sources on the
web. One could simply "study backwards from the test" and ace the
certification tests. Oh, by the way, did I tell you that some of the
braindumps and some of the testdumps out there are WRONG? Haha! They
actually have wrong answers!

This brings me to the next point. I have taken and passed four ComTIA tests
now. I have noticed that they love to "trick and trap." While some of their
questions are very straight forward, others are designed to confuse and fool
you. They also love to throw in arcane knowledge and little used terminology
every once in a while. Of course all this is designed to see if you really
know your stuff. But, it is the "stuff" that CompTIA thinks is important. Do
other tests from other vendors do the same thing?

All of this now brings me to the real question: What is the true value of
these Certifications? CompTIA must think that these certifications are
extremely valuable. Look at what they charge for them! But, after studying
for a couple of years and slogging through four certifications I seem to
have stumbled on to the "dirty little secret" of certification that is, in
fact, the "dirty little secret" of most other areas of life. What is it?
Well, in case you are new to life 101. Let me tell you plain and simple: No
humanly contrived test can ever certify you for anything! To be truly
certified you must live life and live it right. But, in order to run with
zebras you must wear their stripes cause they hate it when you wear
polka-dots.

Anyway . . . happy certification and to all a good night!

Tong N. Cheeke
A+ Network+ INet+ Server+

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Do you have a cliff notes version of your post. :^)

crazymiclo
A+
"GBP" <spam@spam.net> wrote in message
news:kI_N9.156938$6k.2703636@news1.west.cox.net...
> I just passed the INet+ test. Here are a few observations and tips:
>
> If you have already passed the A+ and Network+ test, the INet+ is fairly
> easy. I would estimate that 60% of the INet+ is in those tests areas.
>
> If you work in the IT industry and especially if you are already involved
> with the area of your certification on a day to day basis, you probably
> don't need a lot of study helps; maybe only one for a refresher. But, if
you
> are just "going for one cert after another . . .
>
> One study guide (i.e., book) alone will not do. (Now this irks me!) If all
> you do is read one book (even a good book like Groth's on INet+) and that
is
> all you know, and you know it perfectly, you will never pass the exam. I
> really wish someone would write the books to BOTH the subject AND the
exam.
> In other words the book should be complete enough to allow you to pass the
> exam without having to go everywhere else for supplemental information. I
> have found this with all of the four exams I have taken. No one book ever
> comes close to covering all of the material in the test. Some books come
> closer than others. But, some look like they were written by an author who
> never even saw the test. Some don't seem to be writing with the test in
view
> at all.
>
> I used Groth's book, and while it is very good, there are gapping holes in
> the information he provided. He passed over (or ignored) some things all
too
> quickly. But, the test did not. Also, he had reams of material that he
> thought was important which the test completely ignored. Still, I learned
> from the book. I just wish the writers could get closer to the test.
>
> Then there are all those questions and practice tests and braindumps out
> there. Actually, I find more use for some of this in my own studies and
> preparations. The most helpful questions and tests are those that not only
> give you the right answer but tell you WHY it is right and WHY the other
> choices are wrong. (And, while I am at it I would love for CompTIA to
> explain THEIR answers on a few questions. I know I got a few wrong, by
which
> ones and why were they wrong. What good is a test that you can't learn
from.
> Yes, I know they give you a token explanation and they want to maintain
the
> "integrity" of the test. Yeah, right! Oops, excuse me for digressing.)
>
> Get all of the questions and practice tests you can. But, realize that
(like
> with the books) some are better than others. When I took the Server+ exam
> some questions and tests out there loved to ask you every stupid fact
about
> SCSI busses and bits and bytes. Guess what? The real test NEVER once asked
a
> specific question about the "esoterica" of SCSI dimensions. (Now, you
still
> have to know a little of that to help with a few questions here and there.
> So, it is not like my cramming all that SCSI info into my head was a
> complete waste of time.)
>
> In general I have found that the questions that come with the Dummies
books
> (especially on their CDs!) and the Exam Cram books are better than most.
> (Here is a hint: The test questions on the practice tests on the Dummies
CD
> can be imported into any word processor and reformatted and printed for a
> great study guide.)
>
> Now, on to the braindumps! There is a ton of stuff out there on the Web
that
> can serve as prep material. Use it! Any search engine will find almost any
> of what is available. There are two kinds of braindumps: (1) The material
> that others have used in preparation for the various certifications; and
(2)
> The dumps that people have written who have just taken the test and have
> dumped their recent memories of the questions on the exams. I will address
> the second kind of braindump. If it were not for these kinds of "helps" I
> don't know if I would have been ready for the Server+ exam.
>
> You see, I studied for the Server+ exam for almost a year. I used the
> All-In-One, Dummies, Syngress, and Exam Cram books and all their CDs. I
used
> the Net and even wrote my 15-20 page study guide along the way. I
memorized
> every feature and facet of SCSI and RAID. I had already loaded my brain
with
> all kinds of A+ and Network+ stuff. I was a lean mean test taking machine.
I
> was pumped. I was ready. I had taken every kind of test and practice test
> out there and aced them. Then a week before my scheduled Server+ test I
> found a number two braindump. I did not know that it was mostly in the
area
> of the real questions. I took it and . . . FAILED! Ahhhhh! I went and
> studied backwards from that test. I noticed that these questions were not
> like the other ones. Hmmmm. They seemed to be vaguely familiar . . . sort
of
> like the ones I remembered from my previous adventures with the actual
> CompTIA exams. You know, the funny questions. The strange way of phrasing
> things. The impossible choices. The tricks. The traps.
>
> Well, I went and took the test and there they were. Some of the very
> questions I had seen in some of the braindumps. Well, well, well. So, I
did
> a little more study and found what you already know. You can get all of
the
> CompTIA tests (and every other test as well) from numerous sources on the
> web. One could simply "study backwards from the test" and ace the
> certification tests. Oh, by the way, did I tell you that some of the
> braindumps and some of the testdumps out there are WRONG? Haha! They
> actually have wrong answers!
>
> This brings me to the next point. I have taken and passed four ComTIA
tests
> now. I have noticed that they love to "trick and trap." While some of
their
> questions are very straight forward, others are designed to confuse and
fool
> you. They also love to throw in arcane knowledge and little used
terminology
> every once in a while. Of course all this is designed to see if you really
> know your stuff. But, it is the "stuff" that CompTIA thinks is important.
Do
> other tests from other vendors do the same thing?
>
> All of this now brings me to the real question: What is the true value of
> these Certifications? CompTIA must think that these certifications are
> extremely valuable. Look at what they charge for them! But, after studying
> for a couple of years and slogging through four certifications I seem to
> have stumbled on to the "dirty little secret" of certification that is, in
> fact, the "dirty little secret" of most other areas of life. What is it?
> Well, in case you are new to life 101. Let me tell you plain and simple:
No
> humanly contrived test can ever certify you for anything! To be truly
> certified you must live life and live it right. But, in order to run with
> zebras you must wear their stripes cause they hate it when you wear
> polka-dots.
>
> Anyway . . . happy certification and to all a good night!
>
> Tong N. Cheeke
> A+ Network+ INet+ Server+
>
>

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Here are one or two of the best braindumps for the INet+ . . . I assume this
is the "cliff notes" you are referring to.

http://www.karachiplus.com.pk/tech/...p?find=The_Dude
http://www.2tp.no/webdesign/inet/
http://www.braindumpcentral.com/
http://www.freecomptia.com/inet.html

Now, none of this will do you any good if you don't study to really learn
(i.e., overlearn) your subject.

bb

PS If you were referring to some other "notes" let me know.

"Crazymiclo30" <user@user.net> wrote in message
news:Jd%N9.5398$BP.283@fe01...
> Do you have a cliff notes version of your post. :^)
>
> crazymiclo
> A+
> "GBP" <spam@spam.net> wrote in message
> news:kI_N9.156938$6k.2703636@news1.west.cox.net...
> > I just passed the INet+ test. Here are a few observations and tips:
> >
> > If you have already passed the A+ and Network+ test, the INet+ is fairly
> > easy. I would estimate that 60% of the INet+ is in those tests areas.
> >
> > If you work in the IT industry and especially if you are already
involved
> > with the area of your certification on a day to day basis, you probably
> > don't need a lot of study helps; maybe only one for a refresher. But, if
> you
> > are just "going for one cert after another . . .
> >
> > One study guide (i.e., book) alone will not do. (Now this irks me!) If
all
> > you do is read one book (even a good book like Groth's on INet+) and
that
> is
> > all you know, and you know it perfectly, you will never pass the exam. I
> > really wish someone would write the books to BOTH the subject AND the
> exam.
> > In other words the book should be complete enough to allow you to pass
the
> > exam without having to go everywhere else for supplemental information.
I
> > have found this with all of the four exams I have taken. No one book
ever
> > comes close to covering all of the material in the test. Some books come
> > closer than others. But, some look like they were written by an author
who
> > never even saw the test. Some don't seem to be writing with the test in
> view
> > at all.
> >
> > I used Groth's book, and while it is very good, there are gapping holes
in
> > the information he provided. He passed over (or ignored) some things all
> too
> > quickly. But, the test did not. Also, he had reams of material that he
> > thought was important which the test completely ignored. Still, I
learned
> > from the book. I just wish the writers could get closer to the test.
> >
> > Then there are all those questions and practice tests and braindumps out
> > there. Actually, I find more use for some of this in my own studies and
> > preparations. The most helpful questions and tests are those that not
only
> > give you the right answer but tell you WHY it is right and WHY the other
> > choices are wrong. (And, while I am at it I would love for CompTIA to
> > explain THEIR answers on a few questions. I know I got a few wrong, by
> which
> > ones and why were they wrong. What good is a test that you can't learn
> from.
> > Yes, I know they give you a token explanation and they want to maintain
> the
> > "integrity" of the test. Yeah, right! Oops, excuse me for digressing.)
> >
> > Get all of the questions and practice tests you can. But, realize that
> (like
> > with the books) some are better than others. When I took the Server+
exam
> > some questions and tests out there loved to ask you every stupid fact
> about
> > SCSI busses and bits and bytes. Guess what? The real test NEVER once
asked
> a
> > specific question about the "esoterica" of SCSI dimensions. (Now, you
> still
> > have to know a little of that to help with a few questions here and
there.
> > So, it is not like my cramming all that SCSI info into my head was a
> > complete waste of time.)
> >
> > In general I have found that the questions that come with the Dummies
> books
> > (especially on their CDs!) and the Exam Cram books are better than most.
> > (Here is a hint: The test questions on the practice tests on the Dummies
> CD
> > can be imported into any word processor and reformatted and printed for
a
> > great study guide.)
> >
> > Now, on to the braindumps! There is a ton of stuff out there on the Web
> that
> > can serve as prep material. Use it! Any search engine will find almost
any
> > of what is available. There are two kinds of braindumps: (1) The
material
> > that others have used in preparation for the various certifications; and
> (2)
> > The dumps that people have written who have just taken the test and have
> > dumped their recent memories of the questions on the exams. I will
address
> > the second kind of braindump. If it were not for these kinds of "helps"
I
> > don't know if I would have been ready for the Server+ exam.
> >
> > You see, I studied for the Server+ exam for almost a year. I used the
> > All-In-One, Dummies, Syngress, and Exam Cram books and all their CDs. I
> used
> > the Net and even wrote my 15-20 page study guide along the way. I
> memorized
> > every feature and facet of SCSI and RAID. I had already loaded my brain
> with
> > all kinds of A+ and Network+ stuff. I was a lean mean test taking
machine.
> I
> > was pumped. I was ready. I had taken every kind of test and practice
test
> > out there and aced them. Then a week before my scheduled Server+ test I
> > found a number two braindump. I did not know that it was mostly in the
> area
> > of the real questions. I took it and . . . FAILED! Ahhhhh! I went and
> > studied backwards from that test. I noticed that these questions were
not
> > like the other ones. Hmmmm. They seemed to be vaguely familiar . . .
sort
> of
> > like the ones I remembered from my previous adventures with the actual
> > CompTIA exams. You know, the funny questions. The strange way of
phrasing
> > things. The impossible choices. The tricks. The traps.
> >
> > Well, I went and took the test and there they were. Some of the very
> > questions I had seen in some of the braindumps. Well, well, well. So, I
> did
> > a little more study and found what you already know. You can get all of
> the
> > CompTIA tests (and every other test as well) from numerous sources on
the
> > web. One could simply "study backwards from the test" and ace the
> > certification tests. Oh, by the way, did I tell you that some of the
> > braindumps and some of the testdumps out there are WRONG? Haha! They
> > actually have wrong answers!
> >
> > This brings me to the next point. I have taken and passed four ComTIA
> tests
> > now. I have noticed that they love to "trick and trap." While some of
> their
> > questions are very straight forward, others are designed to confuse and
> fool
> > you. They also love to throw in arcane knowledge and little used
> terminology
> > every once in a while. Of course all this is designed to see if you
really
> > know your stuff. But, it is the "stuff" that CompTIA thinks is
important.
> Do
> > other tests from other vendors do the same thing?
> >
> > All of this now brings me to the real question: What is the true value
of
> > these Certifications? CompTIA must think that these certifications are
> > extremely valuable. Look at what they charge for them! But, after
studying
> > for a couple of years and slogging through four certifications I seem to
> > have stumbled on to the "dirty little secret" of certification that is,
in
> > fact, the "dirty little secret" of most other areas of life. What is it?
> > Well, in case you are new to life 101. Let me tell you plain and simple:
> No
> > humanly contrived test can ever certify you for anything! To be truly
> > certified you must live life and live it right. But, in order to run
with
> > zebras you must wear their stripes cause they hate it when you wear
> > polka-dots.
> >
> > Anyway . . . happy certification and to all a good night!
> >
> > Tong N. Cheeke
> > A+ Network+ INet+ Server+
> >
> >
>
>
>

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I would not be too proud of using braindumps, they are illegal by the way.

"GBP" <spam@spam.net> wrote in message
news:Mu%N9.156972$6k.2714241@news1.west.cox.net...
> Here are one or two of the best braindumps for the INet+ . . . I assume
this
> is the "cliff notes" you are referring to.
>
> http://www.karachiplus.com.pk/tech/...p?find=The_Dude
> http://www.2tp.no/webdesign/inet/
> http://www.braindumpcentral.com/
> http://www.freecomptia.com/inet.html
>
> Now, none of this will do you any good if you don't study to really learn
> (i.e., overlearn) your subject.
>
> bb
>
> PS If you were referring to some other "notes" let me know.
>
> "Crazymiclo30" <user@user.net> wrote in message
> news:Jd%N9.5398$BP.283@fe01...
> > Do you have a cliff notes version of your post. :^)
> >
> > crazymiclo
> > A+
> > "GBP" <spam@spam.net> wrote in message
> > news:kI_N9.156938$6k.2703636@news1.west.cox.net...
> > > I just passed the INet+ test. Here are a few observations and tips:
> > >
> > > If you have already passed the A+ and Network+ test, the INet+ is
fairly
> > > easy. I would estimate that 60% of the INet+ is in those tests areas.
> > >
> > > If you work in the IT industry and especially if you are already
> involved
> > > with the area of your certification on a day to day basis, you
probably
> > > don't need a lot of study helps; maybe only one for a refresher. But,
if
> > you
> > > are just "going for one cert after another . . .
> > >
> > > One study guide (i.e., book) alone will not do. (Now this irks me!) If
> all
> > > you do is read one book (even a good book like Groth's on INet+) and
> that
> > is
> > > all you know, and you know it perfectly, you will never pass the exam.
I[col
or=darkred]
> > > really wish someone would write the books to BOTH the subject AND the
> > exam.
> > > In other words the book should be complete enough to allow you to pass
> the
> > > exam without having to go everywhere else for supplemental[/color]
information.
> I
> > > have found this with all of the four exams I have taken. No one book
> ever
> > > comes close to covering all of the material in the test. Some books
come[
color=darkred]
> > > closer than others. But, some look like they were written by an author
> who
> > > never even saw the test. Some don't seem to be writing with the test[/color]
in
> > view
> > > at all.
> > >
> > > I used Groth's book, and while it is very good, there are gapping
holes
> in

> > > the information he provided. He passed over (or ignored) some things
all
> > too
> > > quickly. But, the test did not. Also, he had reams of material that he
> > > thought was important which the test completely ignored. Still, I
> learned
> > > from the book. I just wish the writers could get closer to the test.
> > >
> > > Then there are all those questions and practice tests and braindumps
out[c
olor=darkred]
> > > there. Actually, I find more use for some of this in my own studies[/color]
and[c
olor=darkred]
> > > preparations. The most helpful questions and tests are those that not
> only
> > > give you the right answer but tell you WHY it is right and WHY the[/color]
other

> > > choices are wrong. (And, while I am at it I would love for CompTIA to
> > > explain THEIR answers on a few questions. I know I got a few wrong, by
> > which
> > > ones and why were they wrong. What good is a test that you can't learn
> > from.
> > > Yes, I know they give you a token explanation and they want to
maintain
> > the
> > > "integrity" of the test. Yeah, right! Oops, excuse me for digressing.)
> > >
> > > Get all of the questions and practice tests you can. But, realize that
> > (like
> > > with the books) some are better than others. When I took the Server+
> exam
> > > some questions and tests out there loved to ask you every stupid fact
> > about
> > > SCSI busses and bits and bytes. Guess what? The real test NEVER once
> asked
> > a
> > > specific question about the "esoterica" of SCSI dimensions. (Now, you
> > still
> > > have to know a little of that to help with a few questions here and
> there.
> > > So, it is not like my cramming all that SCSI info into my head was a
> > > complete waste of time.)
> > >
> > > In general I have found that the questions that come with the Dummies
> > books
> > > (especially on their CDs!) and the Exam Cram books are better than
most. [colo
r=darkred]
> > > (Here is a hint: The test questions on the practice tests on the[/color]
Dummies
> > CD
> > > can be imported into any word processor and reformatted and printed
for
> a
> > > great study guide.)
> > >
> > > Now, on to the braindumps! There is a ton of stuff out there on the
Web
> > that
> > > can serve as prep material. Use it! Any search engine will find almost
> any
> > > of what is available. There are two kinds of braindumps: (1) The
> material
> > > that others have used in preparation for the various certifications;
and
> > (2)
> > > The dumps that people have written who have just taken the test and
have[
color=darkred]
> > > dumped their recent memories of the questions on the exams. I will
> address
> > > the second kind of braindump. If it were not for these kinds of[/color]
"helps"
> I
> > > don't know if I would have been ready for the Server+ exam.
> > >
> > > You see, I studied for the Server+ exam for almost a year. I used the
> > > All-In-One, Dummies, Syngress, and Exam Cram books and all their CDs.
I
> > used
> > > the Net and even wrote my 15-20 page study guide along the way. I
> > memorized
> > > every feature and facet of SCSI and RAID. I had already loaded my
brain

> > with
> > > all kinds of A+ and Network+ stuff. I was a lean mean test taking
> machine.
> > I
> > > was pumped. I was ready. I had taken every kind of test and practice
> test
> > > out there and aced them. Then a week before my scheduled Server+ test
I[col
or=darkred]
> > > found a number two braindump. I did not know that it was mostly in the
> > area
> > > of the real questions. I took it and . . . FAILED! Ahhhhh! I went and
> > > studied backwards from that test. I noticed that these questions were
> not
> > > like the other ones. Hmmmm. They seemed to be vaguely familiar . . .
> sort
> > of
> > > like the ones I remembered from my previous adventures with the actual
> > > CompTIA exams. You know, the funny questions. The strange way of
> phrasing
> > > things. The impossible choices. The tricks. The traps.
> > >
> > > Well, I went and took the test and there they were. Some of the very
> > > questions I had seen in some of the braindumps. Well, well, well. So,[/color]
I
> > did
> > > a little more study and found what you already know. You can get all
of
> > the
> > > CompTIA tests (and every other test as well) from numerous sources on
> the
> > > web. One could simply "study backwards from the test" and ace the
> > > certification tests. Oh, by the way, did I tell you that some of the
> > > braindumps and some of the testdumps out there are WRONG? Haha! They
> > > actually have wrong answers!
> > >
> > > This brings me to the next point. I have taken and passed four ComTIA
> > tests
> > > now. I have noticed that they love to "trick and trap." While some of
> > their
> > > questions are very straight forward, others are designed to confuse
and
> > fool
> > > you. They also love to throw in arcane knowledge and little used
> > terminology
> > > every once in a while. Of course all this is designed to see if you
> really
> > > know your stuff. But, it is the "stuff" that CompTIA thinks is
> important.
> > Do
> > > other tests from other vendors do the same thing?
> > >
> > > All of this now brings me to the real question: What is the true value
> of

> > > these Certifications? CompTIA must think that these certifications are
> > > extremely valuable. Look at what they charge for them! But, after
> studying
> > > for a couple of years and slogging through four certifications I seem
to[co
lor=darkred]
> > > have stumbled on to the "dirty little secret" of certification that[/color]
is,
> in

> > > fact, the "dirty little secret" of most other areas of life. What is
it? [colo
r=darkred]
> > > Well, in case you are new to life 101. Let me tell you plain and[/color]
simple:
> > No
> > > humanly contrived test can ever certify you for anything! To be truly
> > > certified you must live life and live it right. But, in order to run
> with
> > > zebras you must wear their stripes cause they hate it when you wear
> > > polka-dots.
> > >
> > > Anyway . . . happy certification and to all a good night!
> > >
> > > Tong N. Cheeke
> > > A+ Network+ INet+ Server+
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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I DO NOT USE BRAINDUMPS!!! I was just being foolish and joking about the
length of your post. I am sorry if you took it the wrong way. I am studying
for Network + using Terry Ogletree's Upgrading and Repairing Networks and Mike
Myers All in one Network +. I am a network admin where I work too. So I will
not be one of those booklearners with no real world experience. I appreciate
the websites you listed but I doubt I will visit them.





>Subject: Re: On Life and Passing the INet+
>From: "SilverSurfer" silversurfer@pleasedono
tsendanyemailwhatsoever.com
>Date: 12/24/2002 11:09 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <9F%N9.1536$Ss3.61746373@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com>
>
>I would not be too proud of using braindumps, they are illegal by the way.
>
>"GBP" <spam@spam.net> wrote in message
>news:Mu%N9.156972$6k.2714241@news1.west.cox.net...
>> Here are one or two of the best braindumps for the INet+ . . . I assume
>this
>> is the "cliff notes" you are referring to.
>>
>> http://www.karachiplus.com.pk/tech/...p?find=The_Dude
>> http://www.2tp.no/webdesign/inet/
>> http://www.braindumpcentral.com/
>> http://www.freecomptia.com/inet.html
>>
>> Now, none of this will do you any good if you don't study to really learn
>> (i.e., overlearn) your subject.
>>
>> bb
>>
>> PS If you were referring to some other "notes" let me know.
>>
>> "Crazymiclo30" <user@user.net> wrote in message
>> news:Jd%N9.5398$BP.283@fe01...
>> > Do you have a cliff notes version of your post. :^)
>> >
>> > crazymiclo
>> > A+
>> > "GBP" <spam@spam.net> wrote in message
>> > news:kI_N9.156938$6k.2703636@news1.west.cox.net...
>> > > I just passed the INet+ test. Here are a few observations and tips:
>> > >
>> > > If you have already passed the A+ and Network+ test, the INet+ is
> fairly
>> > > easy. I would estimate that 60% of the INet+ is in those tests areas.
>> > >
>> > > If you work in the IT industry and especially if you are already
>> involved
>> > > with the area of your certification on a day to day basis, you
> probably
>> > > don't need a lot of study helps; maybe only one for a refresher. But,
> if

>> > you
>> > > are just "going for one cert after another . . .
>> > >
>> > > One study guide (i.e., book) alone will not do. (Now this irks me!) If
>> all
>> > > you do is read one book (even a good book like Groth's on INet+) and
>> that
>> > is
>> > > all you know, and you know it perfectly, you will never pass the exam.
>I
>> > > really wish someone would write the books to BOTH the subject AND the
>> > exam.
>> > > In other words the book should be complete enough to allow you to pass
>> the
>> > > exam without having to go everywhere else for supplemental
>information.
>> I
>> > > have found this with all of the four exams I have taken. No one book
>> ever
>> > > comes close to covering all of the material in the test. Some books
> come
>> > > closer than others. But, some look like they were written by an author
>> who
>> > > never even saw the test. Some don't seem to be writing with the test
> in

>> > view
>> > > at all.
>> > >
>> > > I used Groth's book, and while it is very good, there are gapping
>holes
>> in
>> > > the information he provided. He passed over (or ignored) some things
> all
>> > too
>> > > quickly. But, the test did not. Also, he had reams of material that he
>> > > thought was important which the test completely ignored. Still, I
>> learned
>> > > from the book. I just wish the writers could get closer to the test.
>> > >
>> > > Then there are all those questions and practice tests and braindumps
> out
>> > > there. Actually, I find more use for some of this in my own studies
> and
>> > > preparations. The most helpful questions and tests are those that not
>> only
>> > > give you the right answer but tell you WHY it is right and WHY the
> other
>> > > choices are wrong. (And, while I am at it I would love for CompTIA to
>> > > explain THEIR answers on a few questions. I know I got a few wrong, by
>> > which
>> > > ones and why were they wrong. What good is a test that you can't learn
>> > from.
>> > > Yes, I know they give you a token explanation and they want to
> maintain
>> > the
>> > > "integrity" of the test. Yeah, right! Oops, excuse me for digressing.)
>> > >
>> > > Get all of the questions and practice tests you can. But, realize that
>> > (like
>> > > with the books) some are better than others. When I took the Server+
>> exam
>> > > some questions and tests out there loved to ask you every stupid fact
>> > about
>> > > SCSI busses and bits and bytes. Guess what? The real test NEVER once
>> asked
>> > a
>> > > specific question about the "esoterica" of SCSI dimensions. (Now, you
>> > still
>> > > have to know a little of that to help with a few questions here and
>> there.
>> > > So, it is not like my cramming all that SCSI info into my head was a
>> > > complete waste of time.)
>> > >
>> > > In general I have found that the questions that come with the Dummies
>> > books
>> > > (especially on their CDs!) and the Exam Cram books are better than
>most.
>> > > (Here is a hint: The test questions on the practice tests on the
> Dummies
>> > CD
>> > > can be imported into any word processor and reformatted and printed
>for
>> a
>> > > great study guide.)
>> > >
>> > > Now, on to the braindumps! There is a ton of stuff out there on the
> Web
>> > that
>> > > can serve as prep material. Use it! Any search engine will find almost
>> any
>> > > of what is available. There are two kinds of braindumps: (1) The
>> material
>> > > that others have used in preparation for the various certifications;
> and
>> > (2)
>> > > The dumps that people have written who have just taken the test and
> have
>> > > dumped their recent memories of the questions on the exams. I will
>> address
>> > > the second kind of braindump. If it were not for these kinds of
>"helps"
>> I
>> > > don't know if I would have been ready for the Server+ exam.
>> > >
>> > > You see, I studied for the Server+ exam for almost a year. I used the
>> > > All-In-One, Dummies, Syngress, and Exam Cram books and all their CDs.
>I
>> > used
>> > > the Net and even wrote my 15-20 page study guide along the way. I
>> > memorized
>> > > every feature and facet of SCSI and RAID. I had already loaded my
> brain
>> > with
>> > > all kinds of A+ and Network+ stuff. I was a lean mean test taking
>> machine.
>> > I
>> > > was pumped. I was ready. I had taken every kind of test and practice
>> test
>> > > out there and aced them. Then a week before my scheduled Server+ test
>I
>> > > found a number two braindump. I did not know that it was mostly in the
>> > area
>> > > of the real questions. I took it and . . . FAILED! Ahhhhh! I went and
>> > > studied backwards from that test. I noticed that these questions were
>> not
>> > > like the other ones. Hmmmm. They seemed to be vaguely familiar . . .
>> sort
>> > of
>> > > like the ones I remembered from my previous adventures with the actual
>> > > CompTIA exams. You know, the funny questions. The strange way of
>> phrasing
>> > > things. The impossible choices. The tricks. The traps.
>> > >
>> > > Well, I went and took the test and there they were. Some of the very
>> > > questions I had seen in some of the braindumps. Well, well, well. So,
>I
>> > did
>> > > a little more study and found what you already know. You can get all
> of

>> > the
>> > > CompTIA tests (and every other test as well) from numerous sources on
>> the
>> > > web. One could simply "study backwards from the test" and ace the
>> > > certification tests. Oh, by the way, did I tell you that some of the
>> > > braindumps and some of the testdumps out there are WRONG? Haha! They
>> > > actually have wrong answers!
>> > >
>> > > This brings me to the next point. I have taken and passed four ComTIA
>> > tests
>> > > now. I have noticed that they love to "trick and trap." While some of
>> > their
>> > > questions are very straight forward, others are designed to confuse
> and
>> > fool
>> > > you. They also love to throw in arcane knowledge and little used
>> > terminology
>> > > every once in a while. Of course all this is designed to see if you
>> really
>> > > know your stuff. But, it is the "stuff" that CompTIA thinks is
>> important.
>> > Do
>> > > other tests from other vendors do the same thing?
>> > >
>> > > All of this now brings me to the real question: What is the true value
>> of
>> > > these Certifications? CompTIA must think that these certifications are
>> > > extremely valuable. Look at what they charge for them! But, after
>> studying
>> > > for a couple of years and slogging through four certifications I seem
> to

>> > > have stumbled on to the "dirty little secret" of certification that
>is,
>> in
>> > > fact, the "dirty little secret" of most other areas of life. What is
>it?
>> > > Well, in case you are new to life 101. Let me tell you plain and
> simple:
>> > No
>> > > humanly contrived test can ever certify you for anything! To be truly
>> > > certified you must live life and live it right. But, in order to run
>> with
>> > > zebras you must wear their stripes cause they hate it when you wear
>> > > polka-dots.
>> > >
>> > > Anyway . . . happy certification and to all a good night!
>> > >
>> > > Tong N. Cheeke
>> > > A+ Network+ INet+ Server+
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


crazymiclo
A+

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I just read one book and passed it with no problems....after having
A+, Network+ and lots of work experience, it seemed pretty easy.


On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 15:04:48 GMT, "GBP" <spam@spam.net> wrote:

>I just passed the INet+ test. Here are a few observations and tips:
>
>If you have already passed the A+ and Network+ test, the INet+ is fairly
>easy. I would estimate that 60% of the INet+ is in those tests areas.
>
>If you work in the IT industry and especially if you are already involved
>with the area of your certification on a day to day basis, you probably
>don't need a lot of study helps; maybe only one for a refresher. But, if you
>are just "going for one cert after another . . .
>
>One study guide (i.e., book) alone will not do. (Now this irks me!) If all
>you do is read one book (even a good book like Groth's on INet+) and that is
>all you know, and you know it perfectly, you will never pass the exam. I
>really wish someone would write the books to BOTH the subject AND the exam.
>In other words the book should be complete enough to allow you to pass the
>exam without having to go everywhere else for supplemental information. I
>have found this with all of the four exams I have taken. No one book ever
>comes close to covering all of the material in the test. Some books come
>closer than others. But, some look like they were written by an author who
>never even saw the test. Some don't seem to be writing with the test in view
>at all.
>
>I used Groth's book, and while it is very good, there are gapping holes in
>the information he provided. He passed over (or ignored) some things all too
>quickly. But, the test did not. Also, he had reams of material that he
>thought was important which the test completely ignored. Still, I learned
>from the book. I just wish the writers could get closer to the test.
>
>Then there are all those questions and practice tests and braindumps out
>there. Actually, I find more use for some of this in my own studies and
>preparations. The most helpful questions and tests are those that not only
>give you the right answer but tell you WHY it is right and WHY the other
>choices are wrong. (And, while I am at it I would love for CompTIA to
>explain THEIR answers on a few questions. I know I got a few wrong, by which
>ones and why were they wrong. What good is a test that you can't learn from.
>Yes, I know they give you a token explanation and they want to maintain the
>"integrity" of the test. Yeah, right! Oops, excuse me for digressing.)
>
>Get all of the questions and practice tests you can. But, realize that (like
>with the books) some are better than others. When I took the Server+ exam
>some questions and tests out there loved to ask you every stupid fact about
>SCSI busses and bits and bytes. Guess what? The real test NEVER once asked a
>specific question about the "esoterica" of SCSI dimensions. (Now, you still
>have to know a little of that to help with a few questions here and there.
>So, it is not like my cramming all that SCSI info into my head was a
>complete waste of time.)
>
>In general I have found that the questions that come with the Dummies books
>(especially on their CDs!) and the Exam Cram books are better than most.
>(Here is a hint: The test questions on the practice tests on the Dummies CD
>can be imported into any word processor and reformatted and printed for a
>great study guide.)
>
>Now, on to the braindumps! There is a ton of stuff out there on the Web that
>can serve as prep material. Use it! Any search engine will find almost any
>of what is available. There are two kinds of braindumps: (1) The material
>that others have used in preparation for the various certifications; and (2)
>The dumps that people have written who have just taken the test and have
>dumped their recent memories of the questions on the exams. I will address
>the second kind of braindump. If it were not for these kinds of "helps" I
>don't know if I would have been ready for the Server+ exam.
>
>You see, I studied for the Server+ exam for almost a year. I used the
>All-In-One, Dummies, Syngress, and Exam Cram books and all their CDs. I used
>the Net and even wrote my 15-20 page study guide along the way. I memorized
>every feature and facet of SCSI and RAID. I had already loaded my brain with
>all kinds of A+ and Network+ stuff. I was a lean mean test taking machine. I
>was pumped. I was ready. I had taken every kind of test and practice test
>out there and aced them. Then a week before my scheduled Server+ test I
>found a number two braindump. I did not know that it was mostly in the area
>of the real questions. I took it and . . . FAILED! Ahhhhh! I went and
>studied backwards from that test. I noticed that these questions were not
>like the other ones. Hmmmm. They seemed to be vaguely familiar . . . sort of
>like the ones I remembered from my previous adventures with the actual
>CompTIA exams. You know, the funny questions. The strange way of phrasing
>things. The impossible choices. The tricks. The traps.
>
>Well, I went and took the test and there they were. Some of the very
>questions I had seen in some of the braindumps. Well, well, well. So, I did
>a little more study and found what you already know. You can get all of the
>CompTIA tests (and every other test as well) from numerous sources on the
>web. One could simply "study backwards from the test" and ace the
>certification tests. Oh, by the way, did I tell you that some of the
>braindumps and some of the testdumps out there are WRONG? Haha! They
>actually have wrong answers!
>
>This brings me to the next point. I have taken and passed four ComTIA tests
>now. I have noticed that they love to "trick and trap." While some of their
>questions are very straight forward, others are designed to confuse and fool
>you. They also love to throw in arcane knowledge and little used terminology
>every once in a while. Of course all this is designed to see if you really
>know your stuff. But, it is the "stuff" that CompTIA thinks is important. Do
>other tests from other vendors do the same thing?
>
>All of this now brings me to the real question: What is the true value of
>these Certifications? CompTIA must think that these certifications are
>extremely valuable. Look at what they charge for them! But, after studying
>for a couple of years and slogging through four certifications I seem to
>have stumbled on to the "dirty little secret" of certification that is, in
>fact, the "dirty little secret" of most other areas of life. What is it?
>Well, in case you are new to life 101. Let me tell you plain and simple: No
>humanly contrived test can ever certify you for anything! To be truly
>certified you must live life and live it right. But, in order to run with
>zebras you must wear their stripes cause they hate it when you wear
>polka-dots.
>
>Anyway . . . happy certification and to all a good night!
>
>Tong N. Cheeke
>A+ Network+ INet+ Server+
>

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