Hello,
I've recently installed Red Hat 8.0 but have two concerns:
1. The screen has a pretty low refresh rate (you can see the flickering). I
went to Display Advanced settings and found a range of refresh rates H:
50-70, V:70-160. So, how would be possible to set a higher refresh rate?
2. Apart the problem above I cannot run TuxRacer. Of course, it is not for
the sake of playing TuxRacer or maybe... but just wondering why I can only
see some diagonal blue and yellow stripes of the TuxRacer welcome screen?
I've tried a different driver, ati instead of vesa but that scrambled my
whole Linux and had to reinstall. Just to let you know I'm not a powerful
user. Off the graphical interface I'm lost completely. I'm afraid to try a
different driver now...
The same stripes also appear for a short period before the login screen. I'm
using 1024x768 16bit, but also tried the 800x600 with no effect.

My system: Motherboard: Intel D845PT, Graphics: Radeon 9000 64MB, Monitor:
Belinea 103025.

Many thanks in advance,
Peter

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In alt.os.linux Jack enlightened us with:
> 1. The screen has a pretty low refresh rate (you can see the flickering). I
> went to Display Advanced settings and found a range of refresh rates H:
> 50-70, V:70-160. So, how would be possible to set a higher refresh rate?

Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and change the ranges. You can download &
install the "read-edid" package to try and detect the max your monitor
can handle.

> I've tried a different driver, ati instead of vesa but that scrambled my
> whole Linux and had to reinstall.

Why not change it back to vesa then?

> Just to let you know I'm not a powerful user. Off the graphical
> interface I'm lost completely. I'm afraid to try a different driver
> now...

Learn a few commands, and you'll at least be able to change your X
drivers.

"cd /etc/X11" to go to the X config directory
"pico XF86Config-4" to edit the file
CTRL+X + a few times Enter to save

> My system: Motherboard: Intel D845PT, Graphics: Radeon 9000 64MB, Monitor:
> Belinea 103025.

Download the ATI drivers from the ATI website, and follow the
instructions to the letter.

Sybren
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Jack wrote:
> The same stripes also appear for a short period before the login screen.
> I'm using 1024x768 16bit, but also tried the 800x600 with no effect.

Hey, I have the same problem as well. I am using 'Generic Laptop Display
Panel 1280x1024 with ATI Rage Mobility'.

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Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:23 pm will from hence forward be known as the day Jack
blabbered:

> 1. The screen has a pretty low refresh rate (you can see the flickering). I
> went to Display Advanced settings and found a range of refresh rates H:
> 50-70, V:70-160. So, how would be possible to set a higher refresh rate?

Well _theoretically_ the optimal refresh rate for the card/monitore is used
out of the supplied range. If you want to push it higher (something that I
dont recommend doing) you will need to either manually edit the X Config file
and suply a smaller range higher up, or just move to the next setting.

> 2. Apart the problem above I cannot run TuxRacer. Of course, it is not for
> the sake of playing TuxRacer or maybe... but just wondering why I can only
> see some diagonal blue and yellow stripes of the TuxRacer welcome screen?

Sounds like you have video driver issues. Tux Racer requires GL from memory
and hence doesnt even work for 'nv' users with nVidia cards. Try installing
openGL and see if that makes a difference.

> I've tried a different driver, ati instead of vesa but that scrambled my
> whole Linux and had to reinstall. Just to let you know I'm not a powerful
> user. Off the graphical interface I'm lost completely. I'm afraid to try a
> different driver now...

What did you do to try a different driver? The changes that need to be made
are very minimal and dont touch any major config files so you shouldnt of
hosed your system doing this, what did you do? (Probably a framebuffer).

> My system: Motherboard: Intel D845PT, Graphics: Radeon 9000 64MB, Monitor:
> Belinea 103025.

What specifically is your video card?

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Hi Joe,
Thanks for the answer. Sorry for being late. I'm on Dialup...
You'll find the dialogues below:

"Joe Fredrickson" <joe@volutin.net> wrote in message
news:KOiM9.3956$W51.12474@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:23 pm will from hence forward be known as the day Jack
> blabbered:
>
> > 1. The screen has a pretty low refresh rate (you can see the
flickering). I
> > went to Display Advanced settings and found a range of refresh rates H:
> > 50-70, V:70-160. So, how would be possible to set a higher refresh rate?
>
> Well _theoretically_ the optimal refresh rate for the card/monitore is
used
> out of the supplied range. If you want to push it higher (something that I
> dont recommend doing) you will need to either manually edit the X Config
file
> and suply a smaller range higher up, or just move to the next setting.

I've tried to narrow the range upwards but the only result I've got was a
maximum 640x480 resolution. Basicly I won't be let to have a 1024x786 with a
higher refresh rate. Don't understand why.


> > 2. Apart the problem above I cannot run TuxRacer. Of course, it is not
for
> > the sake of playing TuxRacer or maybe... but just wondering why I can
only
> > see some diagonal blue and yellow stripes of the TuxRacer welcome
screen?
>
> Sounds like you have video driver issues. Tux Racer requires GL from
memory
> and hence doesnt even work for 'nv' users with nVidia cards. Try
installing
> openGL and see if that makes a difference.

I found in System Settings>Display>Advanced>Adapter card> the 3D
acceleration button unchecked and dimmed.
I roamed the internet for a while but couldn't find a OpenGL download for
Linux. Do you have a link? All I found was a 3D ATI driver on ATI's web
site. Would that do?

> > I've tried a different driver, ati instead of vesa but that scrambled my
> > whole Linux and had to reinstall. Just to let you know I'm not a
powerful
> > user. Off the graphical interface I'm lost completely. I'm afraid to try
a
> > different driver now...
>
> What did you do to try a different driver? The changes that need to be
made
> are very minimal and dont touch any major config files so you shouldnt of
> hosed your system doing this, what did you do? (Probably a framebuffer).
>
> > My system: Motherboard: Intel D845PT, Graphics: Radeon 9000 64MB,
Monitor:
> > Belinea 103025.
>
> What specifically is your video card?

Well, the problem with the Videocard driver came up in the same time with a
partition corruption issue, so it wasnt the videocard's driver fault.
My video adapter is Gigabyte ATi Radeon 9000, Maya II, Open GL 1.3 etc.

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> Mushrooms always grow in damp places and so they look like umbrellas.
>
> Registered Linux User 282072
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Hi Sybren,
Thanks for the answer. Sorry for being late, but I'm on Dialup.
Please find the answers below:

"Sybren Stuvel" <sybrenUSE@YOURthirdtower.imagination.com> wrote in message
news:slrnb038b1.s7.sybrenUSE@sybren.thirdtower.com...
> In alt.os.linux Jack enlightened us with:
> > 1. The screen has a pretty low refresh rate (you can see the
flickering). I
> > went to Display Advanced settings and found a range of refresh rates H:
> > 50-70, V:70-160. So, how would be possible to set a higher refresh rate?
>
> Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and change the ranges. You can download &
> install the "read-edid" package to try and detect the max your monitor
> can handle.
>
> > I've tried a different driver, ati instead of vesa but that scrambled my
> > whole Linux and had to reinstall.
>
> Why not change it back to vesa then?

Well, didin't know how. I found myself in front of a command prompt and that
was it....

> > Just to let you know I'm not a powerful user. Off the graphical
> > interface I'm lost completely. I'm afraid to try a different driver
> > now...
>
> Learn a few commands, and you'll at least be able to change your X
> drivers.

I'll have to find a Linux book. Do you have a link for commands under
Linux??

> "cd /etc/X11" to go to the X config directory
> "pico XF86Config-4" to edit the file
> CTRL+X + a few times Enter to save

I've tried the above commands, but instead of the "pico" command it only
worked with "pic" and "XF86Config" instead of "XF86Config-4". All I obtained
was the XF file listed. I couldn' get into it.

> > My system: Motherboard: Intel D845PT, Graphics: Radeon 9000 64MB,
Monitor:
> > Belinea 103025.
>
> Download the ATI drivers from the ATI website, and follow the
> instructions to the letter.

I went on ATi's site and found under "Built by ATi" a Linux 3D driver for
Radeon 9000 for Xfree 4.2.0. Would that do, even though my card is a built
by Gigabyte? I couldn't find anything on Gigabyte's site.

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It seems the driver in Linux doesn't provide 3D acceleration. You'll find a
3D driver on ATi's
site under Built by ATi. I don't know if it's good or not nor to install
it. I don't know more for the moment. Watch the discussions below.

Peter

"Edward" <etcm@pc.jaring.my> wrote in message
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> Jack wrote:
> > The same stripes also appear for a short period before the login screen.
> > I'm using 1024x768 16bit, but also tried the 800x600 with no effect.
>
> Hey, I have the same problem as well. I am using 'Generic Laptop Display
> Panel 1280x1024 with ATI Rage Mobility'.

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Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:07 am will from hence forward be known as the day Jack
blabbered:

> I've tried to narrow the range upwards but the only result I've got was a
> maximum 640x480 resolution. Basicly I won't be let to have a 1024x786 with
> a higher refresh rate. Don't understand why.

Well try changing the values to different ranges until one works for you
perfectly (or to the extent you want). It may be arduous but with out seeing
your specific case before we cant just say what values you should use.

> I found in System Settings>Display>Advanced>Adapter card> the 3D
> acceleration button unchecked and dimmed.

Well this probably means that you dont have any 3D drivers installed, which
I wouldve guessed anyways asx 3D drivers need to be manually installed.

> I roamed the internet for a while but couldn't find a OpenGL download for
> Linux. Do you have a link? All I found was a 3D ATI driver on ATI's web
> site. Would that do?

I just had a quick look around the net myself and you may want to read
http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-...2-Sep/0327.html

In regards to the ATi site driver this is actually just the one supplied by
XFree86 anyway, as listed here
http://mirror.ati.com/support/faq/linux.html#3d

So using the 8500 XFree86 driver instead of the 9000 will give you 3D support
in a manner.

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Hi again,
Thanks for reply and for all yr help (links etc).
Well, until I received yr message I ventured myself in installing the ATi
driver (a 5 MB download).
First, these commands never worked for me:
rpm -e --nodeps XFree86-Mesa-libGL-4.2.0-72
rpm -Uhv <ati_package_name>.rpm (invalid parameters)
but:
rpm -i --force <ati_package_name>.rpm
worked.
Second, everyone I heard was talking about XF86Config-4 file, but I only had
XF86Config until installation of the ATi driver.

Now, that I have the ATi installed I can say everything is perfect, even the
TuxRacer. The refresh rate just boosted up. Even the performance of the
system seemed to increase (I don't know how). The only problem for the
moment is that I don't have anymore sound. I'm not sure is because the ATi
installation.
Also, the the 3D Hardware Acceleration is still unchecked and deemed even
though ATi says they have an OpenGL included.
I'll try your OpenGL link.
Regarding the fact that ATi driver would come with XFree86, I've never
selected the "Radeon 8500" option is Video Adapter settings before if that's
what you meant. I'll give it a try. However I can say now I have a "Custom"
video card selected or created by ATi installation with a fglrx?? driver and
lots of parameters.
This is for the moment
Peter
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"Joe Fredrickson" <joe@volutin.net> wrote in message
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> Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:07 am will from hence forward be known as the day Jack
> blabbered:
>
> > I've tried to narrow the range upwards but the only result I've got was
a
> > maximum 640x480 resolution. Basicly I won't be let to have a 1024x786
with
> > a higher refresh rate. Don't understand why.
>
> Well try changing the values to different ranges until one works for you
> perfectly (or to the extent you want). It may be arduous but with out
seeing
> your specific case before we cant just say what values you should use.
>
> > I found in System Settings>Display>Advanced>Adapter card> the 3D
> > acceleration button unchecked and dimmed.
>
> Well this probably means that you dont have any 3D drivers installed,
which
> I wouldve guessed anyways asx 3D drivers need to be manually installed.
>
> > I roamed the internet for a while but couldn't find a OpenGL download
for
> > Linux. Do you have a link? All I found was a 3D ATI driver on ATI's web
> > site. Would that do?
>
> I just had a quick look around the net myself and you may want to read
> http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-...2-Sep/0327.html
>
> In regards to the ATi site driver this is actually just the one supplied
by
> XFree86 anyway, as listed here
> http://mirror.ati.com/support/faq/linux.html#3d
>
> So using the 8500 XFree86 driver instead of the 9000 will give you 3D
support
> in a manner.
>
> --
> Mushrooms always grow in damp places and so they look like umbrellas.
>
> Registered Linux User 282072
> <www.volutin.net -- everything irrelevant>

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