Hi Guys,

I know this topic of usefullness or MCSD is ongoing forever. But I am
confused now, bcoz if employer doesn't consider these certifications useful
than what is the purpose of giving these exams. Why waste time and money ?

I need comments from those who have qualified MCSD or MCAD and got job.

Aditya

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>I know this topic of usefullness or MCSD is ongoing forever. But I am
>confused now, bcoz if employer doesn't consider these certifications useful
>than what is the purpose of giving these exams.

From where I stand in the UK, employers do not value ms certs. From
other comments I've read in this group, ms certs are valued more in
the States.

Some employers may well find certifications 'useful' (MS partners for
instance), but this alone will not get you a job. The predominate
factor in getting a job, is experience both business and technical.

If you are just starting out, it will be very hard to get a role, even
with a good honors degree. I can't see ms certs on there own helping
too much, but then again it can't do no harm and does show a
willingness of sorts. But up against all those grads out there, unless
you have a good area of business knowledge, I can't see it myself.

> Why waste time and money ?

It will only be a waste of time if you expect to get a huge pot of
gold at the end.

Passing the cert should give you a good sense of achievement and give
you some confidence to boot.

As for a waste of money, that depends on how many useless books you
buy!

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"Guru" <gurubaba_4342@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Guys,
>
> I know this topic of usefullness or MCSD is ongoing forever. But I am
> confused now, bcoz if employer doesn't consider these certifications
useful
> than what is the purpose of giving these exams. Why waste time and money ?

You do not waste time and money if you really study and learn, gain new
skills. Even if many employers don't care about Certifications they will
care about your skills.

If you think you can gain the same skills only using books and practicing
then probably you don't want to spend money with a certification. Somehow
having in mind the certification target will help you study harder.

> I need comments from those who have qualified MCSD or MCAD and got job.

I got a job and it helped that I passed only one exam at that time 70-229.
I'm a C++ developer and only with C++ I would have not gotten my current
job. The new SQL skills I added helped me.

> Aditya

Danut, MCAD.NET

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In the United States MCSD works pretty well. At least you attract employee's
attention by showing MCSD logo on your resume. Then it depends on your
knowledge and experience. Without certificate you are among other millions,
with certificate you are just among 40 thousands. In many cases it makes
difference.
Because of this I'm working on getting MCSD.NET. I'm MCSD since 1999 and
just a week ago I passed my 3rd MCAD exam. I even cannot compare offers I
used to get before MCSD and after.
VNC

"Guru" <gurubaba_4342@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Guys,
>
> I know this topic of usefullness or MCSD is ongoing forever. But I am
> confused now, bcoz if employer doesn't consider these certifications
useful
> than what is the purpose of giving these exams. Why waste time and money ?
>
> I need comments from those who have qualified MCSD or MCAD and got job.
>
> Aditya
>
>

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Hi VNC

Could you please explain the comment you made
"I even cannot compare offers I
used to get before MCSD and after.
"

Thanks

Aditya
"VNC" <vnc.nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> In the United States MCSD works pretty well. At least you attract
employee's
> attention by showing MCSD logo on your resume. Then it depends on your
> knowledge and experience. Without certificate you are among other
millions,
> with certificate you are just among 40 thousands. In many cases it makes
> difference.
> Because of this I'm working on getting MCSD.NET. I'm MCSD since 1999 and
> just a week ago I passed my 3rd MCAD exam. I even cannot compare offers I
> used to get before MCSD and after.
> VNC
>
> "Guru" <gurubaba_4342@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:s74M9.5842$opk.5736@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > I know this topic of usefullness or MCSD is ongoing forever. But I am
> > confused now, bcoz if employer doesn't consider these certifications
> useful
> > than what is the purpose of giving these exams. Why waste time and money
?
> >
> > I need comments from those who have qualified MCSD or MCAD and got job.
> >
> > Aditya
> >
> >
>
>

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Before MCSD agents were talking about $40-$45K salary, after I became MCSD
no one of them talked lower than $70K and I found a job with almost $90K
VNC

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> Hi VNC
>
> Could you please explain the comment you made
> "I even cannot compare offers I
> used to get before MCSD and after.
> "
>
> Thanks
>
> Aditya
> "VNC" <vnc.nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:uGeM5fupCHA.1968@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > In the United States MCSD works pretty well. At least you attract
> employee's
> > attention by showing MCSD logo on your resume. Then it depends on your
> > knowledge and experience. Without certificate you are among other
> millions,
> > with certificate you are just among 40 thousands. In many cases it makes
> > difference.
> > Because of this I'm working on getting MCSD.NET. I'm MCSD since 1999 and
> > just a week ago I passed my 3rd MCAD exam. I even cannot compare offers
I
> > used to get before MCSD and after.
> > VNC
> >
> > "Guru" <gurubaba_4342@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:s74M9.5842$opk.5736@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > I know this topic of usefullness or MCSD is ongoing forever. But I am
> > > confused now, bcoz if employer doesn't consider these certifications
> > useful
> > > than what is the purpose of giving these exams. Why waste time and
money
> ?
> > >
> > > I need comments from those who have qualified MCSD or MCAD and got
job. [colo
r=darkred]
> > >
> > > Aditya
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]

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That's nice to hear VNC.
I must go for MCSD.NET

Aditya

"VNC" <vnc.nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Before MCSD agents were talking about $40-$45K salary, after I became MCSD
> no one of them talked lower than $70K and I found a job with almost $90K
> VNC
>
> "Guru" <gurubaba_4342@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ON9M9.11289$opk.9281@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > Hi VNC
> >
> > Could you please explain the comment you made
> > "I even cannot compare offers I
> > used to get before MCSD and after.
> > "
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Aditya
> > "VNC" <vnc.nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:uGeM5fupCHA.1968@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > > In the United States MCSD works pretty well. At least you attract
> > employee's
> > > attention by showing MCSD logo on your resume. Then it depends on your
> > > knowledge and experience. Without certificate you are among other
> > millions,
> > > with certificate you are just among 40 thousands. In many cases it
makes

> > > difference.
> > > Because of this I'm working on getting MCSD.NET. I'm MCSD since 1999
and[c
olor=darkred]
> > > just a week ago I passed my 3rd MCAD exam. I even cannot compare[/color]
offers
> I
> > > used to get before MCSD and after.
> > > VNC
> > >
> > > "Guru" <gurubaba_4342@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:s74M9.5842$opk.5736@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > > > Hi Guys,
> > > >
> > > > I know this topic of usefullness or MCSD is ongoing forever. But I
am[co
lor=darkred]
> > > > confused now, bcoz if employer doesn't consider these certifications
> > > useful
> > > > than what is the purpose of giving these exams. Why waste time and
> money
> > ?
> > > >
> > > > I need comments from those who have qualified MCSD or MCAD and got
> job.
> > > >
> > > > Aditya
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]

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Any type of qualifications is worth it, the journey taken (studying) itself
is worth even more.

SBC

"Guru" <gurubaba_4342@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> That's nice to hear VNC.
> I must go for MCSD.NET
>
> Aditya
>
> "VNC" <vnc.nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:OExkrKxpCHA.2220@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > Before MCSD agents were talking about $40-$45K salary, after I became
MCSD
> > no one of them talked lower than $70K and I found a job with almost $90K
> > VNC
> >
> > "Guru" <gurubaba_4342@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ON9M9.11289$opk.9281@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > > Hi VNC
> > >
> > > Could you please explain the comment you made
> > > "I even cannot compare offers I
> > > used to get before MCSD and after.
> > > "
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Aditya
> > > "VNC" <vnc.nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > news:uGeM5fupCHA.1968@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > > > In the United States MCSD works pretty well. At least you attract
> > > employee's
> > > > attention by showing MCSD logo on your resume. Then it depends on
your[
color=darkred]
> > > > knowledge and experience. Without certificate you are among other
> > > millions,
> > > > with certificate you are just among 40 thousands. In many cases it
> makes
> > > > difference.
> > > > Because of this I'm working on getting MCSD.NET. I'm MCSD since 1999
> and
> > > > just a week ago I passed my 3rd MCAD exam. I even cannot compare
> offers
> > I
> > > > used to get before MCSD and after.
> > > > VNC
> > > >
> > > > "Guru" <gurubaba_4342@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:s74M9.5842$opk.5736@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > >
> > > > > I know this topic of usefullness or MCSD is ongoing forever. But I
> am

> > > > > confused now, bcoz if employer doesn't consider these[/color]
certifications[col
or=green]
> > > > useful
> > > > > than what is the purpose of giving these exams. Why waste time and
> > money
> > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > I need comments from those who have qualified MCSD or MCAD and got
> > job.
> > > > >
> > > > > Aditya
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]

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Really?

I had my MCSD in Visual Studio 6, with 6 years of C and C++ experience with
SQL, etc, plus MCDBA, MCSE+Internet certification. But I get no interview
at all and I am still in the unemployment line. Where are those 40K agents
or 70K agents?

Greg
rainnight at excite dot com

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> Any type of qualifications is worth it, the journey taken (studying)
itself
> is worth even more.
>
> SBC
>
> "Guru" <gurubaba_4342@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:GZcM9.9321$F2h1.1105@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > That's nice to hear VNC.
> > I must go for MCSD.NET
> >
> > Aditya
> >
> > "VNC" <vnc.nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:OExkrKxpCHA.2220@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > Before MCSD agents were talking about $40-$45K salary, after I became
> MCSD
> > > no one of them talked lower than $70K and I found a job with almost
$90K[
color=darkred]
> > > VNC
> > >
> > > "Guru" <gurubaba_4342@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ON9M9.11289$opk.9281@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > > > Hi VNC
> > > >
> > > > Could you please explain the comment you made
> > > > "I even cannot compare offers I
> > > > used to get before MCSD and after.
> > > > "
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Aditya
> > > > "VNC" <vnc.nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:uGeM5fupCHA.1968@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > > > > In the United States MCSD works pretty well. At least you attract
> > > > employee's
> > > > > attention by showing MCSD logo on your resume. Then it depends on
> your
> > > > > knowledge and experience. Without certificate you are among other
> > > > millions,
> > > > > with certificate you are just among 40 thousands. In many cases it
> > makes
> > > > > difference.
> > > > > Because of this I'm working on getting MCSD.NET. I'm MCSD since[/color]
1999
> > and
> > > > > just a week ago I passed my 3rd MCAD exam. I even cannot compare
> > offers
> > > I
> > > > > used to get before MCSD and after.
> > > > > VNC
> > > > >
> > > > > "Guru" <gurubaba_4342@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:s74M9.5842$opk.5736@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know this topic of usefullness or MCSD is ongoing forever. But
I
> > am
> > > > > > confused now, bcoz if employer doesn't consider these
> certifications[co
lor=darkred]
> > > > > useful
> > > > > > than what is the purpose of giving these exams. Why waste time[/color]
and[c
olor=darkred]
> > > money
> > > > ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I need comments from those who have qualified MCSD or MCAD and[/color]
got[c
olor=darkred]
> > > job.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Aditya
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]

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