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John Smith
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Sybren Stuvel
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Re: xandros
In article <K%bL9.36601$L47.4505451@read2.cgocable.net>, John Smith wrote:
> does anyone know where i can get the latest distro of xandros desktop?
Probably at the xandros website...
Sybren
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12-16-02 06:25 PM
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Lew Pitcher
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Re: xandros
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:48:09 -0800, in alt.os.linux, Joachim Feise
<reply@the.newsgroup> wrote:
>Richard James wrote:
>> John Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>>does anyone know where i can get the latest distro of xandros desktop?
>>
>>
>> You cannot download it, it is not available for free.
>>
>> Go to
>> http://www.xandros.com/
>>
>> and purchase it.
>
>Hmm, not quite right. They have to provide the sources for all the Open
>Source software they use in their distribution. They can only keep their
>own stuff closed if they choose so.
>You may not be able to download the binaries, but you can still download
>the sources and compile it yourself.
Not quite right yourself.
Assuming that the 'public' software is protected by the GPL, then clause 3
of the GPL takes effect. This reads...
3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it,
under Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of
Sections 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following:
a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine-readable
source code, which must be distributed under the terms of Sections
1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange;
or,
b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three
years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your
cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete
machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be
distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium
customarily used for software interchange; or,
c) Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer
to distribute corresponding source code. (This alternative is
allowed only for noncommercial distribution and only if you
received the program in object code or executable form with such
an offer, in accord with Subsection b above.)
In other words, Xandros isn't obliged to release the source code
'publicly'. You either get it (a) with the distibution, or (b) after asking
for it.
Lew Pitcher, Information Technology Consultant, Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
(Lew_Pitcher@td.com)
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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Joachim Feise
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Re: xandros
Lew Pitcher wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:48:09 -0800, in alt.os.linux, Joachim Feise
> <reply@the.newsgroup> wrote:
>
>
>>Richard James wrote:
>>
>>>John Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>does anyone know where i can get the latest distro of xandros desktop?
>>>
>>>
>>>You cannot download it, it is not available for free.
>>>
>>>Go to
>>>http://www.xandros.com/
>>>
>>>and purchase it.
>>
>>Hmm, not quite right. They have to provide the sources for all the Open
>>Source software they use in their distribution. They can only keep their
>>own stuff closed if they choose so.
>
> In other words, Xandros isn't obliged to release the source code
> 'publicly'. You either get it (a) with the distibution, or (b) after asking
> for it.
If you read my post carefully, I didn't say that they have to "release the
source code publicly". I just said that they have to provide it.
There are several ways they could do this.
-Joe
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John Hasler
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Re: xandros
Joe writes:
> They have to provide the sources for all the Open Source software they
> use in their distribution.
Only to the extent required by the license on each piece of software. The
GPL requires that they offer source to their customers, but it does not
require that they offer it to the general public. The BSD and MIT licenses
do not require that they make source available at all.
--
John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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Andy Clayton
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Re: xandros
Joachim Feise wrote:
> Richard James wrote:
>> John Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>>does anyone know where i can get the latest distro of xandros desktop?
>>
>>
>> You cannot download it, it is not available for free.
>>
>> Go to
>> http://www.xandros.com/
>>
>> and purchase it.
>
> Hmm, not quite right. They have to provide the sources for all the Open
> Source software they use in their distribution. They can only keep their
> own stuff closed if they choose so.
> You may not be able to download the binaries, but you can still download
> the sources and compile it yourself.
>
> -Joe
Source is Debian so:
http://www.debian.org/
The rest is CodeWeaver CrossOverOffice, Xandros File Manager and other third
party softwares which none of these are released under GNU and therefore does
not require the release of source codes...
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Chris Morley
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Re: xandros
Joachim Feise wrote:
> Lew Pitcher wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:48:09 -0800, in alt.os.linux, Joachim Feise
>> <reply@the.newsgroup> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Richard James wrote:
>>>
>>>>John Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>does anyone know where i can get the latest distro of xandros desktop?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You cannot download it, it is not available for free.
>>>>
>>>>Go to
>>>>http://www.xandros.com/
>>>>
>>>>and purchase it.
>>>
>>>Hmm, not quite right. They have to provide the sources for all the Open
>>>Source software they use in their distribution. They can only keep their
>>>own stuff closed if they choose so.
>>
>> In other words, Xandros isn't obliged to release the source code
>> 'publicly'. You either get it (a) with the distibution, or (b) after asking
>> for it.
>
> If you read my post carefully, I didn't say that they have to "release the
> source code publicly". I just said that they have to provide it.
> There are several ways they could do this.
>
> -Joe
The only thing they have to make available is what is released under GNU and
in this case _the_ _Debian_ _source_ _code_
--
The only way to learn a new programming language is by writing
programs in it.
-- Brian Kernighan
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Bob Tennent
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Re: xandros
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:35:02 GMT, Richard James wrote:
>> does anyone know where i can get the latest distro of xandros desktop?
>
> You cannot download it, it is not available for free.
But, as required by some licenses, sources are available:
ftp://ftp2.xandros.com/src/pool/
Bob T.
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