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Cisco Router

I m taking CCNA, and I want a good cisco router? what can you suggest a good
one for learning, and also for advanced configurating?

I don't know differences between a router and another router (well, of
course, the same propietary company and has a console).

But are all of them the same? I mean, a 100 dollar cisco router can do all
the same function as a 500 dollar cisco router?

What I m trying to say is, for a few reason, I want to not let another
router with certain MAC address to get a RIP reply, and I want to control
all 65535 possible ports, which I can close or open any ports at any time.


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Re: Cisco Router

Why not get a software similator?


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Re: Cisco Router

On Thu, 05 Dec 2002 00:55:13 GMT, "Antivivisectionist unreal email"
<warrior5545@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I m taking CCNA, and I want a good cisco router? what can you suggest a good
>one for learning, and also for advanced configurating?
>
>I don't know differences between a router and another router (well, of
>course, the same propietary company and has a console).



When you take CCNP, you get to learn the different routers and their
capabilities. In fact, a big thing about a Cisco certification is
that given a certain problem, you the consultant say a-aha, this is
the router for the job.


>But are all of them the same? I mean, a 100 dollar cisco router can do all
>the same function as a 500 dollar cisco router?


Well, two major distintions.

The hundreds series for home office and the thousands series for small
to large bussnesses. Thousand series = usd$1,500 and up.

The thousands series routers use the standard IOS which you learned in
CCNA. The home office ones have a different interface.


>What I m trying to say is, for a few reason, I want to not let another
>router with certain MAC address to get a RIP reply, and I want to control
>all 65535 possible ports, which I can close or open any ports at any time.
>


Even though with the appropriate software, a Cisco router can be made
into a firewall, you gotta remember that's not what routers are for.
You should use router blocking sparingly and leave firewalling
functions to a real firewall.

Lots of blocking functions in a Cisco router are done via Access Lists
otherwise known as ACLES by network engineers. You touched somewhat in
Basic configuration, and a little more in Advanced Configuration, and
really get into it in CCNP.





-bobb

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"Antivivisectionist unreal email" <warrior5545@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I m taking CCNA, and I want a good cisco router? what can you suggest a

good
> one for learning, and also for advanced configurating?


I was lucky and had access to some spare Cisco kit from work when I took the
CCNA

I only used a 1900 switch to practice on, although I was regularly working
on other bits of kit. Believe it or not but I worked through CCNA for
Dummies book! It did help, although some of the sections assumed you knew a
bit about networking (Novel networking for example, and it WILL come up in
the exam so learn it). The good thing with Dummies books is the humourous
way it make some points, I find it helps me remember them. Don't rely on the
Dummies practice test on the CD though - far too many wrong answers.

The best resource I had was some practice tests from Boson software (
www.boson.com ) I had three practice tests and repeatedly did them until I
was almost 100% on them and I understood the answers. I passed the exam
first time, not by a huge amount but the pass mark is very high IIRC.

Good luck.
Adam. CCNA, MCP, A+, i-net+, server+, network+, ACT


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"bobb" <None@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 05 Dec 2002 00:55:13 GMT, "Antivivisectionist unreal email"
> <warrior5545@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I m taking CCNA, and I want a good cisco router? what can you suggest a

good
> >one for learning, and also for advanced configurating?
> >
> >I don't know differences between a router and another router (well, of
> >course, the same propietary company and has a console).

>
>
> When you take CCNP, you get to learn the different routers and their
> capabilities. In fact, a big thing about a Cisco certification is
> that given a certain problem, you the consultant say a-aha, this is
> the router for the job.
>
>
> >But are all of them the same? I mean, a 100 dollar cisco router can do

all
> >the same function as a 500 dollar cisco router?

>
> Well, two major distintions.
>
> The hundreds series for home office and the thousands series for small
> to large bussnesses. Thousand series = usd$1,500 and up.
>
> The thousands series routers use the standard IOS which you learned in
> CCNA. The home office ones have a different interface.
>


but for home office or for enterprise networks, they can do the same thing?

I mean, like if I buy a configurable router, I dont know...about 500 for at
home (with console and everything), and comparing with a ....let say cisco
2600, both can handle about the same amount of functions? or should I say,
one is less configurable (BIOS coding) than the other

>
> >What I m trying to say is, for a few reason, I want to not let another
> >router with certain MAC address to get a RIP reply, and I want to control
> >all 65535 possible ports, which I can close or open any ports at any

time.
> >

>
> Even though with the appropriate software, a Cisco router can be made
> into a firewall,


well, I m sure of that, I can always close a port, open a port, disable
specifc MAC address to use web surfing, ftping, etc
I think 99:1 routers they sell today are also functioned as a firewall.

you gotta remember that's not what routers are for.
> You should use router blocking sparingly and leave firewalling
> functions to a real firewall.
>


truely, I never seen a firewall box, any link?

> Lots of blocking functions in a Cisco router are done via Access Lists
> otherwise known as ACLES by network engineers. You touched somewhat in
> Basic configuration, and a little more in Advanced Configuration, and
> really get into it in CCNP.
>
>
>
>
>
> -bobb
>



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Re: Cisco Router

i am looking too but honestly for ccna i would reccomend the lammle router
switch sim...
"Adam S" <as538nospam@eng.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> "Antivivisectionist unreal email" <warrior5545@hotmail.com> wrote in

message
> news:RtxH9.515$w03.62903@twister.columbus.rr.com...
> > I m taking CCNA, and I want a good cisco router? what can you suggest a

> good
> > one for learning, and also for advanced configurating?

>
> I was lucky and had access to some spare Cisco kit from work when I took

the
> CCNA
>
> I only used a 1900 switch to practice on, although I was regularly working
> on other bits of kit. Believe it or not but I worked through CCNA for
> Dummies book! It did help, although some of the sections assumed you knew

a
> bit about networking (Novel networking for example, and it WILL come up in
> the exam so learn it). The good thing with Dummies books is the humourous
> way it make some points, I find it helps me remember them. Don't rely on

the
> Dummies practice test on the CD though - far too many wrong answers.
>
> The best resource I had was some practice tests from Boson software (
> www.boson.com ) I had three practice tests and repeatedly did them until I
> was almost 100% on them and I understood the answers. I passed the exam
> first time, not by a huge amount but the pass mark is very high IIRC.
>
> Good luck.
> Adam. CCNA, MCP, A+, i-net+, server+, network+, ACT
>
>



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