I heard it's better than Lindows and Mendrake for beginner.

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jp wrote:

> I heard it's better than Lindows and Mendrake for beginner.

And do not multi-post.

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I'm using Xandros right now it's AWESOME. All the setting up and
configuring I used to do in Mandrake and Redhat is a thing of the past
everything is autodetected and presetup as soon as you boot into the OS.
Get this ,Ghost recon autobooted right off the CDRom and installed right
from the desktop with no configuring anything. Finally sombody got Linux
right and Xandros did it with their first release. So it can be done
it's just that Mandrake and Redhat (and others)choose not to make Linux
user friendly and the living proof is in Xandros. ALL other distros have
a long way to go to catch Xandros.In my opinion using any other distro
now is like using windows 3.1 instead of XP. Buy it it's worth every
penny and the time and effort saved is a welcome change. ...and no I
don't think this way because I'm a newbie I've been playing with Linux
since way before it was a cool thing to be doing. -Beast2k

jp wrote:
> I heard it's better than Lindows and Mendrake for beginner.
> Xandros

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Fri, 20 Dec 2002 07:20 am will from hence forward be known as the day beast2k
blabbered:

> from the desktop with no configuring anything. Finally sombody got Linux

No configuring? That sounds very stale, I like very much to change a lot of
things when I first install a distro, this feature sounds more like someone
finally released a defunct distro.

> In my opinion using any other distro now is like using windows 3.1 instead
> of XP. Buy it it's worth every penny and the time and effort saved is a
> welcome change. ...and no I don't think this way because I'm a newbie I've
> been playing with Linux since way before it was a cool thing to be doing.

Well why dont you change your windowmanager to lets say fvwm and use xandros
and then tell me that the GUI is so great? What you are harping on about is
a theme for most likely KDE -- something that anyone can install on any PC
and distro that they choose.

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beast2k wrote:

> I'm using Xandros right now it's AWESOME. All the setting up and
> configuring I used to do in Mandrake and Redhat is a thing of the past
> everything is autodetected and presetup as soon as you boot into the OS.

1-pre-configured...
2-pre-setup...

> Get this ,Ghost recon autobooted right off the CDRom and installed right
> from the desktop with no configuring anything.

3-no configuring

>Finally sombody got Linux
> right and Xandros did it with their first release.

The purpose of Linux was _*not*_ to be a Windows' /clone/ ...

>So it can be done
> it's just that Mandrake and Redhat (and others)choose not to make Linux
> user friendly and the living proof is in Xandros. ALL other distros have
> a long way to go to catch Xandros.

Lets hope they never do...

>In my opinion using any other distro
> now is like using windows 3.1 instead of XP.

Reading the things you mentionned (1-2-3) it looks more like _Xandros_ "is
like using" Windows XP...

Bet you run as "administrator" all the time... or you really don't know since
it has set everything for you...

>Buy it it's worth every
> penny and the time and effort saved is a welcome change. ...and no I
> don't think this way because I'm a newbie I've been playing with Linux
> since way before it was a cool thing to be doing.

For someone who wants a Linux distro that operates like XP... probably.

P.S. Lindows is powered by Xandros... and both charge a yearly fee to download
softwares that's available for free on the Debian site.

So, a company that operates like Microsoft sells a distro that works like
XP... Hmmm.

At least one doesn't put any more money into M$...

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Joe Fredrickson wrote:

> Fri, 20 Dec 2002 07:20 am will from hence forward be known as the day
> beast2k blabbered:
>> In my opinion using any other distro now is like using windows 3.1 instead
>> of XP. Buy it it's worth every penny and the time and effort saved is a
>> welcome change. ...and no I don't think this way because I'm a newbie I've
>> been playing with Linux since way before it was a cool thing to be doing.

> Well why dont you change your windowmanager to lets say fvwm and use xandros
> and then tell me that the GUI is so great? What you are harping on about is
> a theme for most likely KDE -- something that anyone can install on any PC
> and distro that they choose.
>

And the xandros default desktop looks awfully Windowish dull...

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On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:20:08 +0000, beast2k wrote:

> I'm using Xandros right now it's AWESOME. All the setting up and
> configuring I used to do in Mandrake and Redhat is a thing of the past
> everything is autodetected and presetup as soon as you boot into the OS.
> Get this ,Ghost recon autobooted right off the CDRom and installed right
> from the desktop with no configuring anything. Finally sombody got Linux
> right and Xandros did it with their first release. So it can be done
> it's just that Mandrake and Redhat (and others)choose not to make Linux
> user friendly and the living proof is in Xandros. ALL other distros have
> a long way to go to catch Xandros.In my opinion using any other distro
> now is like using windows 3.1 instead of XP. Buy it it's worth every
> penny and the time and effort saved is a welcome change. ...and no I
> don't think this way because I'm a newbie I've been playing with Linux
> since way before it was a cool thing to be doing. -Beast2k

WOW! It sounds so easy. You don't need to know anything to install it.
You don't need to know anything to use it. All the other distros are
crap. Hummm... Say, you sound like a Windows user. Hey! Have you tried
Windows XP?

By the way... Linux has ALWAYS been cool.

Keith

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To Joe, Chris, and Keith.

I would like to respectfully take an opposing view to yours. I am not attacking
you personally, simply offering an oposing point of view.

I am a computer consultant. I grew up in the Novell world and have, from a
practical point of view, accepted the Microsoft dominance in my client's
offices. Our company supports Novell, Microsoft, and Linux, so I have no
particular axe to grind. My view point is based on what sells and works in the
matketplace rather than what is technically superior.

I picked up this thread with Beast2k's reponse. He appears to say that he was
impressed by the work that the Xandros team have done. He was expressing his
delight in the ease of installation. Your collective reaction was to suggest
that he was a Linux newbie and a Windows refugee in derogatory terms.

I would like to respectfully suggest that the efforts of development teams like
Lycoris, Lindows, and Xandros are _absolutely_ needed if Linux is ever going to
succeed on the desktops of the Fortune 500 companies.

There is no doubt in my mind that Linux as a server platform is excellent and
has the Windows Server OS beat hands down. In many ways, I'll accept that Linux
is also superior to my beloved Novell NetWare. Server superiority then is not
disputed, nor is it the point.

The problem for companies like mine is trying to convince the purchasing agent
(or "boss", or "manager" or whetever) of a small to medium business that has
only ever used Windpws, that they should try Linux with OpenOffice.Org rather
than Windows and MS Office. As long as distros like Mandrake, RedHat and Suse
are around, that makes it a VERY hard sell (without trying to single out any of
those three -- there simply the first three "mainstream dostros" that came to
mind).

The mainstream Linux distros are aimed at a technically inclined Linux audience.
Users who are used to Windows and are just "trying it out" for the first time,
are (from my first hand experience) turned off imediately by how different
everything is. In most cases, that's the end of the experiment and they go back
to Windows thinking Linux is for geeks and not for them (and with RH,Mandrake,
etc. they're right).

It is this type of experience that Lindows, Lycoris, and Xandros are attempting
to address, and are doing it quite well.

Yes they charge for the product, (as does Ximian for the Evolution Connector),
but they've put in a large investment of time to create the "easy transition"
for those first time Windows users. They deserve something for that effort.

I, for one, applaud the efforts of these comanies that are attempting to make
"Linux on the Desktop" an easy transition.

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On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 01:36:56 +0000, OSIRIS wrote:

>
> Yes they charge for the product, (as does Ximian for the Evolution Connector),
> but they've put in a large investment of time to create the "easy transition"
> for those first time Windows users. They deserve something for that effort.
>
> I, for one, applaud the efforts of these comanies that are attempting to make
> "Linux on the Desktop" an easy transition.

Xandros is a spammer.

Say what you like about them but any company which spams is one from which
I will never purchase anything.

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Dave Uhring wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 01:36:56 +0000, OSIRIS wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes they charge for the product, (as does Ximian for the Evolution
>> Connector), but they've put in a large investment of time to create the
>> "easy transition"
>> for those first time Windows users. They deserve something for that
>> effort.
>>
>> I, for one, applaud the efforts of these comanies that are attempting to
>> make "Linux on the Desktop" an easy transition.
>
> Xandros is a spammer.
>
> Say what you like about them but any company which spams is one from which
> I will never purchase anything.

When you accuse someone of something in that way give a reference otherwise
you are being libelous.

Richard

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