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cm2gj
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new on 70217!!
Hello friends.
Yesterday i suscefully passed the 70216 exam so now my next will be 70217. I have for study the Netflash trascender, the MOC book, Cert Trascender and some practice test. is this enough for pass the 70217?
thanks
alex
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10-21-02 06:03 PM
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cm2gj
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quote: Originally posted by CyberDude
A lab wouldbe nice too.
what is needed on the lab.
i have a win2k server computer and a wks...
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10-21-02 06:28 PM
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jeff_j_black
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I like 2 servers and a workstation, if you can swing it. That way you can work through scenarios like DNS delegation, inter and intra site replication, FSMO roles, group nesting etc.
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10-21-02 06:36 PM
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quote: Originally posted by jeff_j_black
I like 2 servers and a workstation, if you can swing it. That way you can work through scenarios like DNS delegation, inter and intra site replication, FSMO roles, group nesting etc.
mmmmmmmmm
perfect.... i can prepare a 2nd os on my 2nd machine
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Your going to have to have a firm grasp on sites and replication for this exam, not to mention operations masters roles. So I would recommend creating some sort of router to simulate two different IP subnets and setup AD like that. That way you can simulate a domain spanning multiple sites, or set it up to have multiple domains in one site. Do all the different combinations of setting up AD that you can think of. For example, one domain and a child or two domains in the same forest. I used a null modem cable to simulate a "slow" WAN link between two sites and that worked out great. Like Jeff said you'll need to know some DNS, which that should be pretty easy since you've already passed 70-216. Some of the other things is that you'll need to be familiar with the MOVETREE command to move users between domains. I had a couple questions regarding that alone. And group nesting is another big thing. Know what kinds of groups you can put in other groups, and the scope of them. And of course I can't forget group polices. What is AD without those? 
This was the toughest test for me so far, but as soon as I take 70-216 I'm sure that will move up to #1.
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jeff_j_black
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Slinky and friends...
One trick you can use to create intersite replication without the need for a routed network:
Example:
I have two servers on the same network.
Server1 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.0.0.0
Server2 ip address 10.2.1.1 255.0.0.0
They will be on the same net due to the mask.
But when you make sites in AD Sites and Services:
Site1 associated with subnet:
10.1.1.0 255.255.0.0
Site2 associated with subnet:
10.2.1.0 255.255.0.0
Creating subnets in AD Sites and Services is purely logical, these subnet settings will not effect the actual communication between Server1 and Server2, except to allow you to configure and monitor intersite replication, without the need for a routed network.
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quote: Originally posted by jeff_j_black
Slinky and friends...
One trick you can use to create intersite replication without the need for a routed network:
Example:
I have two servers on the same network.
Server1 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.0.0.0
Server2 ip address 10.2.1.1 255.0.0.0
They will be on the same net due to the mask.
But when you make sites in AD Sites and Services:
Site1 associated with subnet:
10.1.1.0 255.255.0.0
Site2 associated with subnet:
10.2.1.0 255.255.0.0
Creating subnets in AD Sites and Services is purely logical, these subnet settings will not effect the actual communication between Server1 and Server2, except to allow you to configure and monitor intersite replication, without the need for a routed network.
Good info to know Jeff. I guess I never thought about it that way.
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jeff_j_black
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I read it here on this board, a while back. I'd like to credit the original poster, but it would take a while just to find the post again.
I did this in my lab recently and it worked well, new servers fell into the correct sites, based on subnet and replication could be scheduled / bridged etc.
Of course, there's no substitute for the experience of setting up routed networks. My lab has a Win 2k box as a router to the Internet.
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10-21-02 10:32 PM
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cm2gj
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quote: Originally posted by jeff_j_black
I heard it here on this board, a while back. I'd like to credit the original poster, but it would take a while just to find the post again.
I did this in my lab recently and it worked well, new servers fell into the correct sites, based on subnet and replication could be scheduled / bridged etc.
Of course, there's no substitute for the experience of setting up routed networks. My lab has a Win 2k box as a router to the Internet.
i`m reading deeper the moc and the ms training kits. this weekend i start making test with my "domains"
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