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NetChild1985
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I'm currently on the MCSA 2K track. I passed 70-210 and I'm planning to take the next 3 exams within 3-4 months, but I'm afraid that the 2K exams will be retired soon. Is this true? My question is what should I do - to complete MCSA now or later on the new track--->>"A future Windows version, code-named Longhorn, is due in late 2003 or early 2004, while the next major Windows release--with integrated .NET functionality--is expected in 2004-5. That product is currently code-named Blackcomb."
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keep waiting... by the time you take 2 months/test for the new OS, the next OS will be announce and then you will ponder if it is worth waiting to coninue to complete in the new track...
you study for your own benefit, certification offer you a structured path to complete your study. Do you not think what you learn in this OS, AD, various function and the general idea of how the OS fit in the enterprise will benefit in your pursuit of the next cert for the next OS?
you can wait... then the next OS is delay, then delay again, and you continue waiting... all the while being a simple mcp or you can study and take the test at your own pace and see what good come out of it. if nothing else, you learn more about IT in general... if the NT 4 track is still available, I would argue it is still a viable certification to pursue.
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NetChild1985
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quote:
Originally posted by anthonie
Where did you get all those code names from?
You can find them here
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Go ahead and take them. Remember how long the NT 4 exams were out? They won't start retiring all of the 2k exams until longhorn is on the market and completely established (remember, they haven't even released .NET server yet... even though they had planned to at the 1st quarter of this year). Even if for some strange reason they do, 2k is here to stay in a lot of businesses (hell I am still stuck with some NT 4 at mine). The skills you learn from picking up the 2k track will come in handy either way, so why not grab em and worry about longhorn and blackcomb later? You never know when they will really come out... after all.
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I agree. The skills you learn from studying for the W2k exams will help you with future Windows versions. DNS, DHCP, WINs, TCP/IP, and Active Directory will not change that much, enhanced maybe, but not drastically changed.
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Interesting NetChild, go for the MCSA. MCSE also. Remember once you've obtained the cert, i believe MS sends you a letter saying you only have to take one upgrade exam which will entitle you to the latest cert. You won't have the hassles of taking 6 or 7 exams all over again.
So I've heard
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buckwheat
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Originally posted by NetChild1985
I'm currently on the MCSA 2K track. I passed 70-210 and I'm planning to take the next 3 exams within 3-4 months, but I'm afraid that the 2K exams will be retired soon. Is this true? My question is what should I do - to complete MCSA now or later on the new track
Where exactly did you hear the W2K exams will be retiring soon? I can't imagine MS will want to retire any of the currently live W2K exams any time soon. To retire W2K exams after only going live for 2+ yrs would be absurd.
If I were you I would continue on your current path as a MCSA candidate and not worry about what new Windows release may lie down the road. To worry over whether your current knowledge and what you're studying right now will be relevant 1-2 years from now is absolutely pointless. Everyone knows the IT field is constantly changing every 6 mos. To say you're willing to wait 1-2 yrs to learn the latest and greatest Windows is an unrealistic view of certification in general. If you were to wait that long just to pursue a cert on a new track what makes you think that you won't change your mind and put off your cert pursuit again when you hear MS will be releasing another major upgrade or whatever in another 2-4 years? All this because you want to obtain the latest and what could be hottest cert?
It sounds to me that if you were to get your MCSA today you're concern whether it will be relevant tomorrow after the next Windows release. I whole heartedly agree with the earlier postings that what you learn and master today in your goal of obtaining a MCSA will certainly help you in the future. Everybody in this forum realizes that certification is an ongoing process and it doesn't really stop, that is if you want to be recognized by your employer and peers that you are self-motivated and dedicated and wish to remain competitive in the IT job market. If all you care is the latest systems and certs that have yet to be released and announced then you won't get very far beyond your MCP because certs don't have a unlimited lifetime and are always superceded by another newer cert.
If you want to wait until Longhorn comes out before completing your MCSA on a new track that's fine. But once you obtain it, what makes you think it wont be superceded by another newer MCSA in a few years? Or maybe you'll get wind of MS planning to retire those new exams you waited to take for another Longhorn that will be released in another 1-2 yrs.
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Just because they retire the exams does not mean your MCSE is no longer valid. MCSE4 is still a valid - if not so hot - qualification. Do the MCSE then do the upgrade exam when it comes along.
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