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newone
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everything is wrong with IT right now, my advice is forget about this industry, it is not worth the time and effort to try to break into it.
I think you should give up, take look at those job sites, there is nothing there, why bother to struggle
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Looking for something entry level myself. It's not easy.
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Anyone have any advice...
on where else to look for employment opportunities besides the web and the NY Times? Because its painfully obvious that both sources are absolutely useless. I have thought of posting my resume on the sites of Fortune 500's, and I have done a few, but I have no idea how much they actually look at these sites.
I am a BS in CS, SCSA 7, with just under 2 years tech support exp. I cant even find a lead ops job...
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Shadow_D
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IMO it is wise for almost anyone looking to start a new career to steer clear of I.T. There are many other fields either much more lucrative, or about to become much more lucrative, especially as retirement rates increase and labor shortages develop (there will never be a labor shortage in I.T., because it is so easy to import talent).
RD (unemployed over a year)
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RichardJW
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on where else to look for employment opportunities besides the web and the NY Times? Because its painfully obvious that both sources are absolutely useless. I have thought of posting my resume on the sites of Fortune 500's, and I have done a few, but I have no idea how much they actually look at these sites.
I know the feeling. But maybe you should be looking at local opportunities more? A quick stroll around town has at least provided me with the opportunity of a couple of job applications. Okay, people go on and on about this - you need to network. It's an old cliche yes - but it is so because it is true. The best way to get a job right now is through the back door. Don't waste one minute of your time on those sites. Try to meet people. Get out of the virtual rut. I mean it. The internet is not a good place to secure yourself a position. It might look like it is but appearances are deceptive.
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The internet is not a good place to secure yourself a position.
All the positions I've had since '97 were obtained via contacts made through the Internet. It has only stopped working due to the downturn, and that is because almost no companies are hiring at the moment.
Somehow, I doubt many development positions are filled via the "back door", although I'm sure a lot of lesser positions are.
RD
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07-10-02 12:23 AM
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RichardJW
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Somehow, I doubt many development positions are filled via the "back door", although I'm sure a lot of lesser positions are.
Fine. But don't kid yourself because that is what you are presently headed for. Like it or not, it is that or cashiering at the local lumber yard. Now come on, it is as plain as day to you that noone is hiring. The choices are therefore bleak. Go get your degree if you want - let's see them hire you. Stay out of work if you want - and let's see your hard earned savings vanish away - I know mine have and I've been unemployed almost as long as you. These corporations are doing one thing and one thing only, and that is laying off. Like hell that means they're hiring anyone. The very best hope you got is a software house with a sudden increase in contracts - yes, this is still happening - who need to hire on that basis. I'm going to try next for positions in Government departments because a lot of their software is quasi prehistoric - I mean the people contracted to upgrade their systems.
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