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'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives, nor is it
used on most removable disks"
could someone please point me to more information about this? what exactly
does this mean?



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"Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives, nor is

it
> used on most removable disks"
> could someone please point me to more information about this? what exactly
> does this mean?


The NT File System has a 50MB overhead but there are utilities available on
the Internet to support NTFS on floppy and removable drives.


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Re: ntfs/floppy/removeable drives

this is probably a really stupid question, but i just gotta ask it. does
this mean that if you use ntfs file system, you can't save anything on
floppy disks? or removable disks?

"Andy Barkl" <abarkl@NOSPAM.wetrainit.com> wrote in message
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> "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:N_TM8.119115$Ka.8453954@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives, nor is

> it
> > used on most removable disks"
> > could someone please point me to more information about this? what

exactly
> > does this mean?

>
> The NT File System has a 50MB overhead but there are utilities available

on
> the Internet to support NTFS on floppy and removable drives.
>
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It means a floppy can't be formatted with the NTFS file system.

"Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> this is probably a really stupid question, but i just gotta ask it. does
> this mean that if you use ntfs file system, you can't save anything on
> floppy disks? or removable disks?
>
> "Andy Barkl" <abarkl@NOSPAM.wetrainit.com> wrote in message
> news:17UM8.18066$h%2.1172345@news2.west.cox.net...
> > "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:N_TM8.119115$Ka.8453954@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives, nor

is
> > it
> > > used on most removable disks"
> > > could someone please point me to more information about this? what

> exactly
> > > does this mean?

> >
> > The NT File System has a 50MB overhead but there are utilities available

> on
> > the Internet to support NTFS on floppy and removable drives.
> >
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thanks for you patience. i just want to clarify. if my system is running
with ntfs file system, i can save on floppies, but if i had to format the
floppy, i would have to take it to another system running fat32 and format
it with that machine? Is that right??


"RodB" <halcs@shaw.ca.remove> wrote in message
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> It means a floppy can't be formatted with the NTFS file system.
>
> "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:LSVM8.119979$Ka.8492583@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > this is probably a really stupid question, but i just gotta ask it. does
> > this mean that if you use ntfs file system, you can't save anything on
> > floppy disks? or removable disks?
> >
> > "Andy Barkl" <abarkl@NOSPAM.wetrainit.com> wrote in message
> > news:17UM8.18066$h%2.1172345@news2.west.cox.net...
> > > "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:N_TM8.119115$Ka.8453954@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > > 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives,

nor
> is

> > > it
> > > > used on most removable disks"
> > > > could someone please point me to more information about this? what

> > exactly
> > > > does this mean?
> > >
> > > The NT File System has a 50MB overhead but there are utilities

available
> > on
> > > the Internet to support NTFS on floppy and removable drives.
> > >
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 05:07:15 GMT, "Kathy eninew-isbister"
<eninew@hotmail.com> wrote:

>thanks for you patience. i just want to clarify. if my system is running
>with ntfs file system, i can save on floppies, but if i had to format the
>floppy, i would have to take it to another system running fat32 and format
>it with that machine? Is that right??

nope, just stick it in, right click on the A: drive and format it with
the FAT file system
>
>"RodB" <halcs@shaw.ca.remove> wrote in message
>news:W7WM8.210438$GG6.16879437@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
>> It means a floppy can't be formatted with the NTFS file system.
>>
>> "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:LSVM8.119979$Ka.8492583@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
>> > this is probably a really stupid question, but i just gotta ask it. does
>> > this mean that if you use ntfs file system, you can't save anything on
>> > floppy disks? or removable disks?
>> >
>> > "Andy Barkl" <abarkl@NOSPAM.wetrainit.com> wrote in message
>> > news:17UM8.18066$h%2.1172345@news2.west.cox.net...
>> > > "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:N_TM8.119115$Ka.8453954@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
>> > > > 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives,

>nor
>> is
>> > > it
>> > > > used on most removable disks"
>> > > > could someone please point me to more information about this? what
>> > exactly
>> > > > does this mean?
>> > >
>> > > The NT File System has a 50MB overhead but there are utilities

> available
>> > on
>> > > the Internet to support NTFS on floppy and removable drives.
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Re: ntfs/floppy/removeable drives

no when you format a floppy in Windows it is automatically formatted FAT
file system.

Rod
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"Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> thanks for you patience. i just want to clarify. if my system is running
> with ntfs file system, i can save on floppies, but if i had to format the
> floppy, i would have to take it to another system running fat32 and format
> it with that machine? Is that right??
>
>
> "RodB" <halcs@shaw.ca.remove> wrote in message
> news:W7WM8.210438$GG6.16879437@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > It means a floppy can't be formatted with the NTFS file system.
> >
> > "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:LSVM8.119979$Ka.8492583@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > this is probably a really stupid question, but i just gotta ask it.

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> > > "Andy Barkl" <abarkl@NOSPAM.wetrainit.com> wrote in message
> > > news:17UM8.18066$h%2.1172345@news2.west.cox.net...
> > > > "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:N_TM8.119115$Ka.8453954@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > > > 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives,

> nor
> > is
> > > > it
> > > > > used on most removable disks"
> > > > > could someone please point me to more information about this? what
> > > exactly
> > > > > does this mean?
> > > >
> > > > The NT File System has a 50MB overhead but there are utilities

> available
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> > > > the Internet to support NTFS on floppy and removable drives.
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Re: ntfs/floppy/removeable drives

Kathy eninew-isbister wrote:

> thanks for you patience. i just want to clarify. if my system
> is running with ntfs file system, i can save on floppies,
> but if i had to format the floppy, i would have to take it
> to another system running fat32 and format
> it with that machine? Is that right??


No. Your system ALWAYS uses FAT12 on floppies. It is capable of using
FAT12, FAT16, FAT32 or NTFS on a harddisk and it will always use CDFS
on CD-media, unless they are audio CD's. See also
http://www.webopedia.com; no affiliation of any kind.

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Kathy eninew-isbister wrote:

> 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives,


NFTS itself takes up 5 megabytes minimum.

> nor is it used on most removable disks"


NFTS has more overhead and longer search times than FAT16 up to about
400 megabytes of disk space. File system security is also a questionable
advantage on a removable disk. If you send the newpaper to the printing
house on a removable disk, then you want them to be able to read the DtP
files so that they can make printing plates from them and print the
newspaper.


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Re: ntfs/floppy/removeable drives

however, if you want to boot from the floppy to=20
....W2K, NT4, XP, then the floppy must be formatted from one of those (to =
seek ntldr)
....Win98, then the floppy must be formatted from DOS, Win9x (to seek =
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> "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7uWM8.120139$Ka.8507752@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > thanks for you patience. i just want to clarify. if my system is =

running
> > with ntfs file system, i can save on floppies, but if i had to =

format the
> > floppy, i would have to take it to another system running fat32 and =

format
> > it with that machine? Is that right??
> >
> >
> > "RodB" <halcs@shaw.ca.remove> wrote in message
> > news:W7WM8.210438$GG6.16879437@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > It means a floppy can't be formatted with the NTFS file system.
> > >
> > > "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:LSVM8.119979$Ka.8492583@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > > this is probably a really stupid question, but i just gotta ask =

it.
> does
> > > > this mean that if you use ntfs file system, you can't save =

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> > > > > "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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