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me? I dunno...
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04-16-02 12:59 AM
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Since 210 is only about professional, you really do not need a domain model to study for it. I would recommend that you do not jump too far in your lab setup, slowly work it up depending on the exam objective.
You are confusing physical network topolgy with logical network topology. They are independent. Don't read too much into various technologies...
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04-16-02 01:12 AM
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04-16-02 01:27 AM
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Re: Mikop
quote: Originally posted by me? I dunno...
Thank you, I'm trying to get what I need right off the bat so I don't have to screw around later. I plan on doing the full mcse route and will have to learn it at home so naturally I would like to start out with whatever parts I need or at least the basics that I can expand on. I don't want to end up with a bunch of stuff thats no use to me.
If you are starting with 70-210, the practice using it. Do practices from the MS Press kit or other books. When you get to 70-215, build yourself a server and install 2000 server and implement a domain. Add active directory and play around with user rights and permissions. Get a small hub or router (router works best if you have cable or DSL). I guess to start off, load Win2000 and play with permissions and adding users and stuff like that. Hope this helps
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04-16-02 02:26 AM
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I respectfully disagree with mikop.
I think you need a domain if you are studying for the 210 test as many of the subjects covered in the test will require AD to be running -- RIS comes to mind, for example. I recommend a star topology with three machines minimum: 2 DCs and one client machine. That way you can study both AD replication and client/server interaction...
A hub will do, but a switch would be better 
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I would add that, if possible, you make available on each machine a minimum of 2 drives or partitions--one for 2000 Pro and the other for 2000 Server. That way you can dual boot them in various configs. You can run them as multiple domain controllers or simply as multiple 2000 Pro machines in a workgroup. That is what I am trying to do now, but as an afterthought. I wish I had done it right the 1st time!
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04-17-02 10:19 AM
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yes and no. Remember that with PNP, we get a bit more leeway when it comes down to hardware solutions...
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Personally I wouldn't worry about RIS requirements for a small lab environment. If you're there to learn, you may want to perform installs in various ways anyway. Use RIS via network for one machine or OS, then use disk dup for another, and CD unattended for another, for example. By using various configs, you may end up learning more, though taking more time.
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quote: Originally posted by mcdoud
Personally I wouldn't worry about RIS requirements for a small lab environment. If you're there to learn, you may want to perform installs in various ways anyway. Use RIS via network for one machine or OS, then use disk dup for another, and CD unattended for another, for example. By using various configs, you may end up learning more, though taking more time.
great idea! 
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