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CyberDude
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Registered: Aug 2001 Location: Where ever I lay my hat. Country: Germany State: Certifications: A+, N+, CNA5, CCNA2, MCSE NT4, MCP 2000, MCSA, ACP, ACE Working on: MCSE 2000 & 2003, CNE, CCNP, Linux, Programming
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Ok, problem time again.
I have decided that I want my test computer purely for 2000 server, so that I can explore AD more thoroughly with a bit more space.
The problem is that the wife still want to have an internet connection for the laptop upstairs. This was usually achieved via either 2000 pro or server (which ever one I was running at the time) using ICS.
I have just tried to get ICS working from my work computer running ME, but for some reason it would not find any web pages (why is it that ICS is so frustratingly horrible to set up on a 95 kernel machine?).
I know that ICS supplies limited versions of dns and dhcp and so does NAT if you configure it to become them as well. This means that I will not have the full capabilities of the complete dns or dhcp services.
If I use my test computer solely for AD, I will not be able to use ICS (as I cannot configure the services correctly). Can I use NAT with a dial-up connection, or is it strictly for permanent connections? I think the latter is right.
If I am right then I will have to keep 2000 pro on my test computer for the sole use of ICS for the wife (if this is the case can I get away with installing the OS using a size less than the recommended 2Gb partition?
I am probably trying to get blood from a stone with this, but I have to ask.
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jeff_j_black
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The obvious point is ICS will not function with DHCP and DNS on the network, so NAT would be the best option, if you wanted to run server exclusively. Yes, you can fit 2K server on less than 2Gigs. I have one DC that runs on 1.2 Gigs on my test network, but there's not enough space to install SP2 on it!
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CyberDude
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It looks like I will have to keep pro and server on the test computer then, in order for me to fulfil my study requirements. I was hoping to have just server on the HD, so that I cound upgrade the disk to dynamic as well. 
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carlitos
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you could buy a router too
so the laptop will have access regardless of what you do with your other PC
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CyberDude
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Buying a router requires something that unemployed people do not have a lot of, MONEY. Thank you for your valid point, and if I could afford it I would purchase one (although I believe my wife would not like it).
Can NAT function with a dial-up connection, as my book states that you need to have a permanent connection with a valid IP address?
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swordfish78
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Can set up NAT ..
1)Public Interface to the internet ISP
But (depends on the IP you got from ISP, if it is static, you can configure it straight away on the Public Interface, but if dynamic, you need to configure everytime you got a new IP lease from ISP)
2) Private Interface to your LAN..
Connection to the laptop and PC. Can assign it to lease address automatically for the laptop and PC.
IT should work on this way.
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04-05-02 11:57 AM
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CyberDude
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Is it possible to set the public interface to dynamically get an address, as with a dial-up connection, in order to get an address you must be connected to your ISP. Then to have to configure NAT for that address you have to disconnect. Once you disconnect you lose the address, so I don't see how you can configure it once you have got a dynamic address. It must be able to get one itself. Otherwise, it can only function on a static address. 
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swordfish78
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Can probably assign the address that your ISP is frequently assign eg: 207.46.0.1 to 207.46.255.254 (this is just example, depends on your ISP that assigns the particular address)
Check this out under Address Pool Tab..
Hope this helps..
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04-05-02 12:28 PM
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KScheler
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I beleive it should work if you setup demand-dial for the connection to the ISP. On 216 I saw a few questions dealing with setting up demain-dial on the public interface so your clients can access the net.
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04-05-02 01:27 PM
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CyberDude
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I have now scanned my 215 and 216 books. It is strange really that my 216 book only mentions that NAT is for static IP's, whereas my 215 book clearly goes through the config for both static and dynamic. It looks like I am going to have to not only read and digest the book for the exam I want to take, but will have to reread the ones I have taken already, as some subjects are explained more fully in different books. 
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