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Swigga
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Teaching 218
Hi there all. This for the teachers who might browsing this thread. Are any of you going to start teaching MCSA, and more specifically, 218. I have only seen one book on this subject, and we are thinking of ditching ISA 2000. What we would do is prepare the students for 218 instaed of 227, and I think we can do it from the same 4 core books. Exactly what does 218 cover, anyone know ??? is this a possibility to anyone ???
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IMHO, if you teach 210,15,16 and 17 then there's no need to teach 218. ISA is alot more important, fun, and interesting than a 218 class would ever be.
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Teaching any class is fun. If you have the right materials and the dedication. There are several billions of people out there that can learn from each and all types of classes.
Etek, by my area is teaching MCSA now solely for $1500. I was laughing. But there is people out there that want to learn. Some just can't do it on their own.
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If you teach for the 218 test, then teach the MOC for it -- I believe it is the the 2126 class if memory serves...
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I think that once you have done the 4 core then you dont really need to be taught 218, since it covers all the topics already covered.
We did ISA sever last week and it was pretty cool, especially for logging people in the morning class who like to browse porn sites and then redirecting them to the Disney Site the following day.
As for crosses comments on some people just cant learn on there own, well I would rather be taught by qualified individuals anyday, than sitting at home reading a book. Plus it gives a bit more oomph to your resume when you have gone through a registered course for MCSE than practising at home on a 2 computer network.
Thats IMHO
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Thanks for your interest.
I understand about 218 being like a miniature version of the four core. Our IS Administrator took it the first day it came out with no studying what so ever. He wanted to be one of the 1st 5000 MCSA's. The idea I had was to bridge a gap in IT certification. You take your 1st test and you're an MCP. That is great, but lots of students do not attempt to go the distance. One failure will frustrate them, and this usually happens around 216. There is nothing in the middle for them to shoot for. I polled my class and asked them what would be more appealing to them. Three certs or two ? They all said three, and we're going over the stuff already, why not get the extra cert. It looks great on your resume. If you could get another cert in the middle on the way to the MCSE, it might give you more leverage to get employed and experienced. That will increase the likelyhood of someone else financing your education.

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quote: As for crosses comments on some people just cant learn on there own, well I would rather be taught by qualified individuals anyday, than sitting at home reading a book. Plus it gives a bit more oomph to your resume when you have gone through a registered course for MCSE than practising at home on a 2 computer network.
Totally agree!!!
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