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buddahfool
Walker of The Way

Registered: Feb 2002 Location: Rio Rancho currently but from Argentina Country: United States State: Certifications: MCP (70-210,70-215), CIW Assoc, i-Net+, Network+, A+ Working on: MCP(70-218), MCSA, CIW Site Designer, Citrix Winframe XP
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Passed Foundations
Got a 92%.
I am in a rut I get 92% for all my certs lately... (3 in a row so far)
It asked some questions about troubleshooting database conectivity which I did not study but other wise went well. Know your OSI model well...
-Fool
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04-01-02 11:30 PM
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wildscribe
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Registered: Nov 2001 Location: a quiet burb just outside NYC Country: United States State: Certifications: A+, Net+ Working on: CCNA and 70-270
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Fantastic! A 92 is an awesome score!!!
I also think it's interesting that you took the CIW-A and I-Net+. Were you aware that the I-Net+ counts towards the CIW-A and for $95 (I think that's the current price), you could have gotten the CIW-A cert without taking a test?
But now that you've taken both the CIW-A and I-Net+, which test did you think was more difficult?
Good Luck with your future certs!
- Wild
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04-01-02 11:59 PM
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buddahfool
Walker of The Way

Registered: Feb 2002 Location: Rio Rancho currently but from Argentina Country: United States State: Certifications: MCP (70-210,70-215), CIW Assoc, i-Net+, Network+, A+ Working on: MCP(70-218), MCSA, CIW Site Designer, Citrix Winframe XP
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i-Net+ vs CIW
CIW is a less mature exam. The wording was clumsy and seemed to focus on trivia. It seemed worse than the Microsoft exams as far as answering the questions "The CIW way" rather than the correct answer. I am not looking forward to the Site Designer exam... 
i-Net+ was a pleasure in comparison. In reality it felt like a scaled down Network+ with a slight orientation toward the web. The questions were very striaght forward. I am looking forward to my upcoming A+ exams.
P.S. I took them both because:
a) I got layed off so the government is paying for my training and all the test I can handle. (don't get to jealous I am still unemployed) 
b) While taking said training they offered me a temporary job teaching part of the CIW ciriculum (Internet Basics and Network Fundamentals) To teach it they don't count the transferred credentials. 
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04-02-02 12:17 AM
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vidon
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Registered: Feb 2002 Location: Country: Australia State: Certifications: MCIWD Working on: MCIWA; CISSP
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Re: i-Net+ vs CIW
quote: Originally posted by buddahfool
CIW is a less mature exam. The wording was clumsy and seemed to focus on trivia. It seemed worse than the Microsoft exams as far as answering the questions "The CIW way" rather than the correct answer.
I would have to agree with this - if one were paranoid, one might suspect that they were determined to make sure you bought the official materials so you would know the idiosyncratic vocabulary required for certain questions... ;-)
My own feeling was that about a half-dozen questions relied on idiosyncratic vocabulary that you weren't likely to see outside the CIW materials. It wasn't enough to keep you from passing, but it was definitely enough to make you nervous if you were weak on any other section... ;-)
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04-02-02 01:22 AM
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buddahfool
Walker of The Way

Registered: Feb 2002 Location: Rio Rancho currently but from Argentina Country: United States State: Certifications: MCP (70-210,70-215), CIW Assoc, i-Net+, Network+, A+ Working on: MCP(70-218), MCSA, CIW Site Designer, Citrix Winframe XP
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LOL
It is so true. My teacher could not keep a straight face when referring to an IP address as a "Dotted Quad"
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04-02-02 02:26 AM
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wildscribe
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Registered: Nov 2001 Location: a quiet burb just outside NYC Country: United States State: Certifications: A+, Net+ Working on: CCNA and 70-270
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Re: CIW-A vs. I-Net+
quote: It is so true. My teacher could not keep a straight face when referring to an IP address as a "Dotted Quad"
That does sound bizarre, but it doesn't surprise me. CIW was founded by a for-profit training company and they have to promote their own prep material. Thanks for the warning.
I like the CompTIA exams, at least the ones I took - A+ and Network+. I had been pulling computers apart since I purchased my first PC in 1982. I thought I had a good understanding about how they worked, but studying for the A+ really gave me a good education and showed me there is much more to learn. I have been able to put a lot of what I learned from the A+ to work at my current job. Same with the Network+. I am also looking forward to taking the security cert that CompTIA plans to offer in the Fall.
Thanks for the information on CIW-A and I-Net+.
Wild
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04-02-02 03:11 AM
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Drummer
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Registered: Jun 2001 Location: Rolling Meadows, IL Country: USA State: Certifications: A+, M CIW D, M CIW A, CIW CI Working on: MBA
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Re: Re: i-Net+ vs CIW
quote: Originally posted by vidon
My own feeling was that about a half-dozen questions relied on idiosyncratic vocabulary that you weren't likely to see outside the CIW materials. It wasn't enough to keep you from passing, but it was definitely enough to make you nervous if you were weak on any other section... ;-)
I'll take that over the M$ stuff where they say right off the top in the MOC books that "these books will not cover all the material in the exams". At least with the CIW tests you know that everything on the exam was in a Prosoft book. It might have been in some obscure place but it was there.
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04-02-02 04:56 AM
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vidon
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Registered: Feb 2002 Location: Country: Australia State: Certifications: MCIWD Working on: MCIWA; CISSP
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Re: Re: Re: i-Net+ vs CIW
quote: Originally posted by Drummer
I'll take that over the M$ stuff where they say right off the top in the MOC books that "these books will not cover all the material in the exams". At least with the CIW tests you know that everything on the exam was in a Prosoft book. It might have been in some obscure place but it was there.
The issue is always whether the test is meant to test your skills, or to screen your pocketbook... ;-) Don't get me wrong: I enjoyed the process of preparing for the CIW - and I've never been willing to go for the MS certs (talk about screening your pocketbook!). But some people have trouble affording the official materials, and in an ideal world should be able to pass the test without them - so long as they've fully mastered the publicly stated test objectives...
I still suspect that the CIW materials wouldn't be enough to prepare someone for the exam "from scratch" - but I agree with you that they are more than adequate as a guide to what you need to know, if you already more or less know it...
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04-02-02 05:15 AM
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buddahfool
Walker of The Way

Registered: Feb 2002 Location: Rio Rancho currently but from Argentina Country: United States State: Certifications: MCP (70-210,70-215), CIW Assoc, i-Net+, Network+, A+ Working on: MCP(70-218), MCSA, CIW Site Designer, Citrix Winframe XP
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Re: Re: Re: Re: i-Net+ vs CIW
quote: Originally posted by vidon
I still suspect that the CIW materials wouldn't be enough to prepare someone for the exam "from scratch" - but I agree with you that they are more than adequate as a guide to what you need to know, if you already more or less know it...
Well to be honest I barely knew any HTML, no java, no CSS and nothing about registering a domain name or web hosting before I took the courses.
I knew some network stuff out of books but never really used it.
hmmm... but I think I attribute the usefulness of the course to to good teachers at UNM Continuing Ed. They really expanded on the material and had me participate in exercises that used the skills till I knew the concepts not the rote memorization.
hmmm... but I took MCP classes from the same people and I had the opposite expereince...
sooo... maybe they have good material. On the balance the books were actually good references and I will use them in the future.
boy am I wordy tonite, 
-Paul
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04-02-02 06:12 AM
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priscilladh
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Registered: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Country: Canada State: Certifications: Working on: CIW, Network+ A+
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about official material
Hi,
I am new to the certification world since I just moved to Canada and did not have access to it from where I lived before. My question is, has any of you used other books than the official prep books from prosoft ? 
What would be the books I could use instead ?
Since I just moved it is kind of hard for me to buy the official one for 450 bucks. Any suggestions ?
Thanks 
Priscilla
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