im in the middle of getting my mcse and ccna and as i get into the more advanced classes like designing a network infastructure it is becomming clear to me that unless there is a miracle my 1st job wont have anything to do with this stuff, from what people have told me most entry level jobs are in tech support and if you are lucky they will let you maintain user accounts, so this has me thinking are these certs really necessisary at this point? from a practical standpoint not really because i dont see myself using this knowledge until ive spent some time in the field... the only reason to get them is to have some credentials to put on my resume because a lot of other people have them so thats what i need to compete

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yup
but that seems to be the IT industry
you get a bunch of certs you won't use for a job the certs eventually run out and you have to renew em to get another job you won't use em for eventually you will use em but by that time you've renewed your certs 5 times
but that seems to be the industry we're all trying to break into

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too bad comptia certs dont mean more because they last forever... i still plan on getting my inet+ and net+ and maybe further down the road a linux +... it doesnt hurt to have a resume full of certs

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I have to disagree with you on

too bad comptia certs dont mean more because they last forever...

I think hte very fact they last forever devalue their worth, contributing to it not mean more. The way technology work, how is a 95 a+ useful nowaday when there was no atx form factor, only AT? and insert every new technology.

Re-certification mean it update your skill to current. It indicate your knowledge on what is applicatble to the world at this moment, not some arcane out of date technology. I would like to see someone in 5 years still displaying their 1998 comptia+ cert as some indication of their knowledge in the particular field.

addi: in re-reading your sentence again, I can't figure out what you meant. Do you mean to say
1. I love comptia cert as it last forever, but unfortunately, they do not have the recognition of some cert like cisco ms?
or
2. too bad comptia cert last forever therefor reducing their worth?

ps. I also disagree with *can't have enuff cert on resume*
Your resume space is at a premium, you need to display discretion in what you put there. Unless it is going to make an impact or a cert ppl search for, then clutter it up on that 1 page when you can put one more line of accomplishment in job experience is ill advise.

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I have to disagree with you on

too bad comptia certs dont mean more because they last forever...

I think hte very fact they last forever devalue their worth, contributing to it not mean more. The way technology work, how is a 95 a+ useful nowaday when there was no atx form factor, only AT? and insert every new technology.

Re-certification mean it update your skill to current. It indicate your knowledge on what is applicatble to the world at this moment, not some arcane out of date technology. I would like to see someone in 5 years still displaying their 1998 comptia+ cert as some indication of their knowledge in the particular field.

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my whole point about having a resume full of certs is that it cant hurt you... especially when you dont have alot of experience... if 2 people have identical experience and one guy has a few more certs who is more likely to be called in for an interview? as far as what i said about comptia certs i meant that i like the idea that you dont have to keep renewing them... its once less thing to worry about. they are all basicly entry level certs that are good for filling a resume when you dont have much experience to list...

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A Comptia cert is not meant to be renewed. It is meant to help you get your foot in the door. That's what I used it for.. Once you get in, you get experience, training through your employer, and then you can aquire more advanced certs. Do you think me renewing my A+ because I had NT 4.0 questions instead of Win2K questions on it is going to do me any good. I've had 2 more years experience with Win2K, job related training (also for win2k), and more advanced certs like say 70-210. I don't think it would do me any good to spend another $250 to renew an enrty level cert when I've had 6 years experience in IT!!!

They are entry level, that's all they're meant to be... A experienced professional has no need to renew them once that entry-level baseline has been established!!! Just my .02 cents!

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A Comptia cert is not meant to be renewed. It is meant to help you get your foot in the door. That's what I used it for.. Once you get in, you get experience, training through your employer, and then you can aquire more advanced certs. Do you think me renewing my A+ because I had NT 4.0 questions instead of Win2K questions on it is going to do me any good. I've had 2 more years experience with Win2K, job related training (also for win2k), and more advanced certs like say 70-210. I don't think it would do me any good to spend another $250 to renew an enrty level cert when I've had 6 years experience in IT!!!

They are entry level, that's all they're meant to be... A experienced professional has no need to renew them once that entry-level baseline has been established!!! Just my .02 cents!

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I don't think the A+ certification is all that different now than it was in 1995. The only real difference is that the OS part of the test covers the new windows. There are some other minor things on the test now, I think most would agree though that the only major updates to the A+ really only have to do with the new Windows(OS part). I could be wrong.

If I was supposed to hire someone and everything else being equal between prospect employees, I would of course hire the guy certified most up to date. Like saying how much would you like your paycheck to be? $100 or $110? Marginal difference.

And hey, what about CompTIA starting certifications for each version of Windows? Sounds like a good idea to me They already have Linux+

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Certs=job interview. That's all.

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