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How big do you think Linux with get?
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onoski
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Registered: Jan 2002 Location: Country: United kingdom State: Certifications: MCP NT4/Srv Working on: On gaining more practical skills, not papers
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How big do you think Linux with get?
I was wondering if anyone has thought about Linux in terms of the ground it is now gaining especially in terms of open source and scalability. I read an article today on how the likes such as HP, IBM, iPlanet and other companies are beginning to introduce Linux into their IT infrastructor. Especially when it comes to clustering and Servers.
I quiet believe Linux would pick up especially this year where a lot of companies are talking about security and cutting costs. I do not work for linux or have a friend there as am very used to GUI and Microsoft OS. But lately I have developed an interest in Linux, even set one Red Hat 7.1v up as a Server running alongside W2K Server providing file and print services for W2K Pro clients. I just like the idea of having to log on in root and using terminal to do great things such as change file, add users and the list goes on. The security features are quiet good as well. Huh, think it would be hard to crack if used to its max.
Well, enough of the Linux big ups, its also a variant of Unix hence making it a cheaper way to learn Unix and gaine valuable skills.
Has anyone got, an opinion on this topic lets hear. Happy learning, and remember knowledge is aquired through an informed opinion. Or maybe you have a different opinion.
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01-29-02 02:07 PM
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wildscribe
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Registered: Nov 2001 Location: a quiet burb just outside NYC Country: United States State: Certifications: A+, Net+ Working on: CCNA and 70-270
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As much as I like Linux, I think it is going to take some time (like several years) before it becomes a mainstream operating system. I think it's great that IBM and HP are investing big money in promoting and developing Linux, but the truth comes down to the number of companies using it. If you walk into a server room at most companies (at least in the metro NY area), you'll find that Microsoft rules. In some cases companies, like the one I work for, are experimenting with Linux, but for the most part, I have found that IT directors are still figuring it out. Most companies have invested a lot of time and money in Microsoft and they are not about to immediately replace NT and Windows 2000 servers with Linux boxes, even though Linux is a less expensive and more reliable alternative.
Look at it this way, if you are a sys admin with no Linux/Unix experience, and have been working with Microsoft products for many years and one day your boss comes up and asks your opinion about Linux, there is a good chance that you might tell him you don't like Linux because you are comfortable with your job. I work with people like this. They have worked hard to get their MCSE's and they are not interested in learning another OS.
Linux will undoubtedly gain marketshare from Microsoft, especially in the server market, but I think it is going to be a very slow process.
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01-29-02 05:33 PM
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RBud
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01-29-02 08:50 PM
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PotatoHead
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I don't think Linux is going anywhere from where it is now, and thats not anywhere near the top. Microsoft will dominate for a long time.
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01-30-02 04:19 AM
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AndyC
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Hey spud how's it going? Do you get to play around with Linux much?
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01-30-02 03:59 PM
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webd
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quote: Originally posted by PotatoHead
I don't think Linux is going anywhere from where it is now, and thats not anywhere near the top. Microsoft will dominate for a long time.
people have been saying that for years and the linux user base has been expanding coinstantly...
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01-30-02 05:29 PM
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TW2001
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Registered: Mar 2001 Location: Country: USA State: Certifications: A+,MCP Working on: BS CompSci
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Not to flame you spud...
But you may want to venture out of this site.Since your not in the industry at least look at what is going on.There is a much bigger backend than the solutions MS provides.Look at the scalability being forged.Look at IBM dumping millions into development..Sun...HP.I even read to today,after succesfully implementing the eSeries servers with Linux,IBM intends to build a server(that means architecture) around the Linux OS.They are calling it raptor or something.
Personally Im not to concerned with converting the masses or pushing linux on the desktop.Im much more interested in its role in shaping the enterprises of the future.As has been mentioned it wont happen tommorow but........
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01-31-02 12:46 AM
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ccieToBe
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I think in the server/back end side of things Linux will grab a big piece of the market. Its market share here has been growing exponentially for the last few years and I don't see any reason for this to stop. Apache 2.0 and Samba 3.0 are just around the corner and IMO once these are out *nix will be even more appealing then it is now. On the desktop side Linux still has a ways to go though before its usable for non-geeks. I'd love to move all my end users over to dumb terminals hooked up to a BSD or Linux box but the userland software support just isn't there yet.
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02-01-02 05:01 AM
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onoski
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TW2001
[B]Not to flame you spud...
Look at IBM dumping millions into development..Sun...HP.I even read to today,after succesfully implementing the eSeries servers with Linux,IBM intends to build a server(that means architecture) around the Linux OS.They are calling it raptor or something.
I would agree with TW2001 here, as most people in this forum are missing the point or just have a myopic view. I can say with the way things are looking that on the server side of things, Linux would kick. But on the deskstop side, way to go, maybe a reborn.
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02-01-02 07:27 AM
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Supertech
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Registered: Dec 2000 Location: Sweetwater Country: Texas State: Certifications: A+,N+,S+,L+, I+,HTI+,DHTI+,e-Biz+,Sec+,RFID+ CETma, RESI, CSS, CFOT, CCNT,CCTT, ,ISA CCST3, HAA, ISF Working on: patience, self-control
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$1 billion dollars
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IBM is expected to announce today that the $1 billion dollars it invested in Linux in 2001 has almost entirely been recouped. Specific figures are not available, but IBM invested in getting Linux on its full line of servers, getting its line of software to run in Linux, training its personnel to run Linux, and placing advertisements such as full-page ads in major daily newspapers.
Chief executives at IBM claim it all paid off in the first year of server sales.
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2...20130010028.htm
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