Don't forget to check out ebay as a source for buying books. I just saw 9 CIW books out there. Save some $$$$$ where ya can!!!

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Cheers for the info - they are a bit scarce - new ones due out soon see www.ciwcertified.com

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AH Ebay, what would we do without it?

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Sleep

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Good response Sh0tgun - nearly fell of my chair!!

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... However, really not very true. I'm not an auction addict.

Really! I'm not!... Stop looking at me like that. OK, I'll put the mouse down.

Wait, just one last bid...


*Edit* Swing by the i-Net+ forum Frank, I could've used ya... my thread really died... Oh well.

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HaHa, that was a clever one Sh0tgun

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I almost bid on one of these auctions but was lucky enough to ask the seller what the books (Security Professional) would cover. They were mainly covering Windows NT 4! So, I did not spend money on the old stuff!

Piranha!

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Hey Pirahna,
I see you've got plenty of certifications after your name so I'm assuming you've got a bit of IT experience so help me with this... I noticed the CIW Administrator track is heavy on NT. Does that make it outdated or worthless for people new to IT? How many companies are really rushing into spending the money to upgrade to 2k servers? I know it's important for current NT MCSE's to upgrade but how long before NT4 skills are worthless in the job market? I'm not administrator but I'd guess that for the next year or so there will be plenty of jobs for NT skilled people. Should people seeking CIW Admin Track certifications wait until the program is upgraded to include Win 2K servers? - what do you think?
thanks!!!

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Well, I think that Windows 2000 and the soon-to-be-released Windows.Net Server are the future for many corporations. Of course - NT 4 will still be around for some time but it will disappear more sooner than later.

If you can base your studies on the newer stuff you will be fine. If you are a new starter I would not waste any time on NT 4 related items anymore. Active Directory won't go away for some time and Windows.Net server will use it, too.

I am working for an MCSP and we upgrade very often to the newest stuff (it's just hard to follow with all those certification though) - we are a remote office of a big corporation and not connected to their domain - so, we can do that without the big hassle big companies have. Our HQs are slowly migrating to an Active Directory domain while we are on AD already for a long time already.

What I wanna say is - if you do stuff on NT 4 - you should work on stuff in W2K at the same time, too - to be competetive! The current CIW track is not worthless and it is not outdated but when you pass the last exam it proofs that you have specific knowledge at that point in time (like I had it with my MCSE). Employers will look at it but they will also ask you about newer stuff. An employer expects you to keep current with technology or they won't hire you. So, you have to find the path in the middle that you a) show some certifications and the knowledge behind them and b) that you show some newer stuff, too.

My employer does not require me to upgrade my MCSE and my boss knows what I am doing and what skills I have - so, I do not have to proof myself anymore. I am going for 2 or 3 newer exams now - step by step and use the MCSE as the foundation. Then if I look at my certifications they will show a steady path from the older to the newer stuff. That in combination with my growing work experience will be what I have to sell if I will have to ask for more money or are looking for a newer job. The big title is less important once you're in IT - it opens the door when you need to get in. Important is that you have knowledge and skills. A certification is not worth a dime if you cannot proof the knowledge in your daily work. I entered the IT business about 3 years ago with just 2 MCP exams under my belt and then worked my way up. I finished the MCSE in early 2000 - it matched my growing job experience at that time. That was important to me because I did not wanted to be a paper MCSE. What I did was having just the starter certifications and then studied the stuff inside out so that I had not only the certifications but an indeep knowledge of the stuff. That was the key my current employer hired me because I was able to proof my knowledge and to show that I am capable of doing the job. Have your certifications be a mirror of your knowledge!

Oh, well .... that's a lot stuff I wrote here. I hope I answered your questions and did not went too far off topic. Send me a PM if you have more questions.

Take care!

Piranha

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