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some career advice needed !!
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Ando
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Registered: Nov 2000 Location: Country: Ireland State: Certifications: Working on:
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some career advice needed !!
hiyas,
I'm working at the mo in an IT networking company. They have about 40 clients, located throughout the country, but mainly in the city I live in. Its only my first IT job, but I have been working with them since april last. The thing is, simply that I am/in the process of being qualified in windows 2000, thats where my interest/motivation lies, but this company I am working for has a totally anti-upgrade attitude towards 2000. Out of 40 clients, they have 1, yes 1 windows 2000 client network. Every other network is NT4 and a load of $hit for me (i hate nt4).... I mean, I go off, learn everything I can about 2000, then I have to re-learn how NT4 works, its total b0llox. And on top of that, I feel the company is trying to push me in the direction of Macs, as I'm working with Macs in some form nearly every day now ( I have no interest in Macs, and do not want to pursue them in the slightest)
I do have a great interest in Web-Design, (I've done a couple of sites as a hobby, 1 for business) and would love to get into that area iswell. Basically, I'm looking for a job which deals mainly with windows 2000 and deals with web-design somewhat. Ideally, I would like to get my MCSE in 2000 first before I leave (something to fall back on if all goes wrong), but this problem is effecting me so much nowadays ....
Some advice is needed please !
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12-16-01 01:01 PM
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PotatoHead
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Registered: Oct 2001 Location: SoUtHeAsT Country: USA State: Certifications: A+, CNA 5, MCP x 3, MCSA, Net+ Working on: 70-216
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Well as you probably know the IT world is not the best right now so I would stick it out there and throw some resumes around to other companies and see if i get a reply. I would not just quit for the sole fact of them using NT4 or Mac though.
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12-16-01 05:23 PM
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ccieToBe
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Registered: Jul 2000 Location: Blue Ridge, North Georgia Country: US State: Certifications: CCDA, CNA, MCP, Network+, A+, BSIT Working on: Security+
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My suggestion is to start looking for a new job right now (it may take a while to find a better one) and continue working towards completing the MCSE track. Considering that this is your first IT job it sounds like you're doing fairly well right now so moving up may be difficult.
Also consider how it would look on your resume if you quit right now. I suggest staying with your current employer for at least a year before moving on.
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12-16-01 06:05 PM
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chodan
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Registered: Mar 2000 Location: Kentucky Country: United States State: Certifications: CCNA/CCNP CCDA /CCDP MCSE NT4/Win2000 MCP+I Network+ Security+ Working on: CCIE Routing & Switching
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Also remember that applications drive the OS market in many ways.
If a "must have" app for your company or there clients comes out that only runs on or has features that only run on windows 2000 then they will upgrade, and it is only a matter of time before that happens.
It might help to find an ally in management who will champion the cause of a windows 2000 upgrade "just make sure it looks like their idea hehe".
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12-16-01 06:24 PM
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Nicole
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Registered: Dec 2000 Location: California Country: USA State: Certifications: MCP Working on: MCDBA
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I agree with the comments above -- hang in there for now, but keep your eyes open. As a first job, this sounds pretty good!
You may hate NT and Macs, but NT is still very much in use, and the experience will serve you well, especially if you find a company looking for people to help them with a future upgrade from NT to 2000.
As for web design, Macs are a big part of that world, and you won't find many Macophile designers willing to switch, especially since there's no real need to when the software handles almost any file issues. Being able to savvy Macs will very likely be helpful if you move into the design world, even if you don't ever want to use one yourself.
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12-16-01 08:11 PM
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darthw
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Registered: May 2000 Location: Tulsa Country: USA State: Certifications: MCSE NT4, A+, N+, i-N+, CDIA+, CCA, S+, CNA, CNE, Proj.+, MCNE, HTI+, MCDST, Sec+, CIW-A Working on: MCSA and MCSE 2k3
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I'd stay where you are for a while. Especially since it's your first IT job, the current job market, and that there are currently a whole lot of companies not upgrading to W2K right now.
Don't worry, there will come a time when many companies will have no choice, and you'll be in a good position.
I'd also take the time to learn the Mac stuff if the opportunity is there. Every additional skill you acquire could (and probably will) make you either a more valuable employee with your current employer, or a better-skilled prospective employee with another employer.
I highly recommend you try to stay with your current employer at least another year and a half, UNLESS a really good opportunity presents itself. If it's your first IT job, some initial job stability will also benefit you when seeking a better opportunity when the job market turns around.
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12-16-01 09:14 PM
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Hootie
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W2K is new and shiny and, I think, pretty cool.
Do it all. "Just" slow down a bit.
Allow yourself to take all the time you need to learn Windows 2000 (built on NT) and enjoy it.
You'll learn more than you may be aware of by doing your job well. Yes, really.
What's the old saying? Luck is the meeting point of preparedness and opportunity.
Your part is to take care of preparedness by learning what's in front of you at the moment. Opportunity is not under your control.
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12-17-01 07:22 AM
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TheNile
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Registered: Dec 2000 Location: NYC Country: United States State: Certifications: B.S. C.S, MCSE 4.0, MCP 2000 soon MCSE 2000 Working on: MCSE 2000, CCNA, LINUX
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It is not that bad .
Hey, It is not that bad...........I think you need to stay at list a year or more to have a solid hands on experience and to get some certification. I do not know your position in the IT department, but Mac’s are not that bad. Do you know that Mac’s are moving to the Unix based system?. Well Mac OS x is in the beginning stages, but it may be one of the chosen OS in the future. I think you should learn anything that you can get your hands on and just be the best candidate for your next job. I am supporting Mac’s, Win2k, Unix and now playing with XP. The company I work for spend a lot of money on Technology and it is a great place to learn every gadget out there.
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12-17-01 06:01 PM
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Ando
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12-17-01 06:46 PM
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superdave42
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Registered: Nov 2001 Location: Nampa Country: United States State: Certifications: A+ Working on: N+,
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troubles
The way I understand it, you don't like NT 4 because of the troubles it gives you.
I say your trouble are responsible for half of your pay. Because with out them you someone else could do your job for half of what your getting paid to do it.
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