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8iDBA/Dev6i and degree
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yyx
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Registered: Nov 2001 Location: Country: Afghanistan State: Certifications: Working on:
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11-14-01 06:39 PM
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yyx
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Registered: Nov 2001 Location: Country: Afghanistan State: Certifications: Working on:
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electrical engineering and electronics degrees are not IT degrees
2 year CIS degrees are not real IT degrees
online IT degrees are not real IT degrees
real IT degrees = 4 or 5 years CIS/computer-science degrees
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11-14-01 06:45 PM
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laloca
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Registered: Oct 2001 Location: Vienna Country: Austria State: Certifications: OCP DBA 8i + 9i Working on:
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One's salary depends on various factors:
* your age
* your experience
* education
* your personal profile
* the position
* your success in negotiating a salary (!!)
* market needs and saturation
If you have a degree and work in an entry level support position you won't have much salary, but it's easier to get the job. After 3-5 years of experience a degree becomes less important. Also a degree without experience is worth nothing after some years.
I don't have a degree, but I was at University and studied business for some years. I have about 12 years of experience with in IT/Organisation, project management, developement ... in an interview I'm not asked about degrees, only about concrete references, projects and experiences.
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11-15-01 08:19 AM
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Tekmazter
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Registered: Nov 2000 Location: MA Country: USA State: Certifications: A+,Net+ i-Net+,Serv+, Sec+, Linux+, CIW-A,MOUS, MCP+I,MCSA,MCSE/NT4,CWNP,CCSA, IST Cert; NHCTC, AS Working on: Everything SUN now in progress along with everything RH
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Re: 8iDBA/Dev6i and degree
quote: Originally posted by yyx
8iDBA/Dev6i and degree
35K = US$35,000/year (40,000 EURO/year)
Not to spoil your little party yyx, but INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY is not COMPUTER SCIENCE. Why do you think they call it "COMPUTER SCIENCE"? I don't know how you come up with such an erroneous statement. Also, 4-5 years experience? Perhaps you'd better get an understanding of the current definitions of what Information Technology & Computer Science are today, before making such incomprehensible statements. Your post insults many people working in the IT industry today. I also feel your statement to be irresponsible, and rediculously exaggerated.
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11-16-01 11:51 AM
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Tekmazter
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Registered: Nov 2000 Location: MA Country: USA State: Certifications: A+,Net+ i-Net+,Serv+, Sec+, Linux+, CIW-A,MOUS, MCP+I,MCSA,MCSE/NT4,CWNP,CCSA, IST Cert; NHCTC, AS Working on: Everything SUN now in progress along with everything RH
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quote: Originally posted by yyx
electrical engineering and electronics degrees are not IT degrees
2 year CIS degrees are not real IT degrees
online IT degrees are not real IT degrees
real IT degrees = 4 or 5 years CIS/computer-science degrees
Not to spoil your little party yyx, but INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY is not COMPUTER SCIENCE. Why do you think they call it "COMPUTER SCIENCE"? I don't know how you come up with such an erroneous statement. Also, 4-5 years experience? Perhaps you'd better get an understanding of the current definitions of what Information Technology & Computer Science are today, before making such incomprehensible statements. Your post insults many people working in the IT industry today. I also feel your statement to be irresponsible, and rediculously exaggerated.
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11-16-01 11:52 AM
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yyx
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Registered: Nov 2001 Location: Country: Afghanistan State: Certifications: Working on:
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11-18-01 04:33 PM
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laloca
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Registered: Oct 2001 Location: Vienna Country: Austria State: Certifications: OCP DBA 8i + 9i Working on:
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What are your assets apart from rudeness and ignorance, yyx?
I can see none in your profile ...
I wish you good luck for the future with your "social" skills, you'll certainly need it! 
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11-18-01 05:46 PM
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NickL
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Registered: Nov 2001 Location: Flushing, NYC Country: USA State: Certifications: BS Accounting, MS Finance Working on: Oracle App Dev 6, Sun Java Developer
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IT degrees
It is good idea to get Oracle Developer 6i cert along with a 4 year CS or related (MIS, CIS, etc..) degree to get your foot in the door. The certification together with the 4 year degree will set you apart from the rest, particularly if you have no experience.
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