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Boulware5
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Registered: Mar 2001 Location: Country: USA State: Certifications: A+, Network+, Linux+, CST, A.A.S degree in CIS LAN concentration Working on: BS degree, CCNA, Security+
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College degrees
Looking through a lot of IT job listings, I see Bachelors degree required. I have one A.A. degree (in general studies) and am going for an A.A.S. degree (in networks) with hopefully a handful of certs down the road. Will this be critical down the road for me (to get a 4-year degree) or is experience equivalent to a 4yr degree in most jobs?
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07-01-01 04:48 AM
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Randy
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From what I see the most crucial thing to have is experience. But not having a degree all too often puts a "cap" on your advancement possibilities. Some employers use degrees as a way of weeding out some of the candidates, so that the ones who do not have them are all too often passed over even if they are qualified. Think about this . . . would you like to copmpete with other who have degrees when you don't? It does put you at something of a disadvantage . . . so if it is possible, I would say at least get your bachelors so the employer will have more of a reason to take a closer look at you. Then the experience and certs will help even more.
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07-01-01 11:09 AM
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TW2001
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I completely agree with Randy. Also, understand that A.A.S is not comparable to A.S. Do a CS degree and use certification study for Networking Technologies.
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07-01-01 03:23 PM
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exar07
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Same Boat!
Hey welcome to my boat,
I also have a AA degree! I have interviewed and emailed my resume to many companies and have been told several times that the 4yr is
a must!
For some reason the 4yr degree is becoming more important each year. I believe soon it will be like having a High School degree.
I agree with every one else but I am in the same boat and I have noticed that the general market prefers a 4yr degree + the experience.
Plus it gives you additional edge over your competition!
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07-02-01 01:16 PM
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Bobby Digital
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I have an A.A.S (Associate of Applied Science) in Computer Networking Technology. A.A.S. are referred to as "career associates". Basically, you learning what you need to a specific job/career. There is nothing wrong with A.A.S. because it shows that you have some formal training. However, don't expect an "advanced" position because you have one.
It is still important to eventually pursue a bachelors degree, especially if you want to advance and/or move into management.
BD
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07-02-01 05:23 PM
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Randy
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Re: Same Boat!
quote: Originally posted by exar07
For some reason the 4yr degree is becoming more important each year. I believe soon it will be like having a High School degree.
Isn't that the way it is now?
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07-02-01 05:25 PM
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Nicole
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Re: Same Boat!
quote: Originally posted by exar07
For some reason the 4yr degree is becoming more important each year. I believe soon it will be like having a High School degree.
You know, they've been saying that for years, and not just about CS. The tide seems to wax and wane. In a competitive market, it's crucial at the entry level and very helpful everywhere else -- the more competitive, the more important it becomes.
I'd go get the 4 year degree *right away* if at all possible. It will help you ride out ups and downs in the job market, and it gets REALLY hard to go back and get a degree once you have a house payment, bills to pay, or an S.O. or child to support.
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07-02-01 05:48 PM
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Tekmazter
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If your applying for management, odds are you'll need it. Otherwise, AS's are fine for most posistions and the key focus will be on experience. Four year degrees are a dime a dozen these days. With 4 years exp and an AS, you should take that one every time. We all need something to set us apart. Experience in a variety of areas and enviroments is key.
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07-02-01 06:35 PM
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Kasor
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College is MUST!
We are in W2K, knowledge is very important. U want to stay in a fast track. Put yourself into the program. Look into the future. Think about maybe another few decade, we will live in the space, travel to different planet like the "STARTREK".
U can work P/T while studying. Job experience is important, but tradition college education also the bottem line of your next generation.
There few basic way to success:
1> u are the only one with unique skill
2> u are Master of management
3> u create a new OS to beat up Bill
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07-03-01 12:31 PM
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Azam
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Hey,
What happenes when I go to universtity in september and take courses all year long, sept to sept. I will finish my degree in exactly 1+2 years. 1 year for University 1 (some new program which every new person has to take) and then 2 years full time in the science faculty. If I take the regular session I will finish my degree in 5 years. I plan on getting a honours as well in cs.
Any feedback will be appreciated,
Azam
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