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Daviet
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Registered: Sep 2000 Location: In A House Country: Canada State: ON Certifications: A+. Network+, MCP in Windows Pro Working on: Anything dealing with IT
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Howdy all, First off I want to opoligize for all these questions, But im curious.
-How important is MCSE, and how long does it usually take to break in.. Im sure you dont start with a 500+ network to look after, So How to you get to the top?
-How valuable is I-Net+?
-What are the passing scores for the MCSE exams.. I bought the core requierments Yesterday through Microsoft (4 books).
-Will the Server portion be the same as Pro, just with a bit of extra's.. Or Should I read Pro first, then Server.. and then...?
-What other certs should I look at that involve troubleshooting?
Any help would be greatly appreciated, or even a URL on these subject matters would be great
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02-12-01 11:49 PM
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ccieToBe
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Registered: Jul 2000 Location: Blue Ridge, North Georgia Country: US State: Certifications: CCDA, CNA, MCP, Network+, A+, BSIT Working on: Security+
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quote: Originally posted by Daviet:
Howdy all, First off I want to opoligize for all these questions, But im curious.
-How important is MCSE, and how long does it usually take to break in.. Im sure you dont start with a 500+ network to look after, So How to you get to the top?
It all depends. If you want to work in an NT/2K environment it's important to have this or at least MCP. Otherwise, it's nice to have, but you don't really need it.
-How valuable is I-Net+?
Not sure. I took a look at some preparation books when they first came out and the material seemed very basic. CompTIA's A+ is very recognized, but their other certs don't cary much weight.
-What are the passing scores for the MCSE exams.. I bought the core requierments Yesterday through Microsoft (4 books).
Not sure, check here http://www.microsoft.com/trainingandservices
-Will the Server portion be the same as Pro, just with a bit of extra's.. Or Should I read Pro first, then Server.. and then...?
The Server exam assumes you already have knowledge of Professional. Because of this most people take Professional first.
-What other certs should I look at that involve troubleshooting?
That depends on what you want to troubleshoot. If you can be more specific on what you're interested in I'll make some suggestions.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, or even a URL on these subject matters would be great
[This message has been edited by ccieToBe (edited 02-12-2001).]
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02-13-01 03:17 AM
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Gareth Leung
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Registered: Oct 2000 Location: Toronto Country: Canada State: Certifications: MCSE+I, i-Net+, CIW Associate, IT Project+ Working on:
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quote: Originally posted by Daviet:
-How valuable is I-Net+?
Depends which route you've choose.
quote: -What are the passing scores for the MCSE exams.. I bought the core requierments Yesterday through Microsoft (4 books).
70-210 - 620
70-215 - 660
70-216 - 620
70-217 - 665
quote: -Will the Server portion be the same as Pro, just with a bit of extra's.. Or Should I read Pro first, then Server.. and then...?
Try Pro frist, then server.
quote: -What other certs should I look at that involve troubleshooting?
Designing a Microsoft Windows 2000 Network Infrastructure
Designing a Microsoft Windows 2000 Directory Services Infrastructure
Migrating From Windows NT 4.0 To Windows 2000
Network+
Server+
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Hope these help 
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Daviet
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Registered: Sep 2000 Location: In A House Country: Canada State: ON Certifications: A+. Network+, MCP in Windows Pro Working on: Anything dealing with IT
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Thanks alot for the info Guys, I appreciate it.. Just one few more questions.. You mentioned the scores were 620, 660, etc.. Is this out of 1000 which would be the equivalent of 100%?
What all should I use for a Home lab, I thought 2 puters would be fine but am hearing 3 would be much better, 2 for Server and one for Pro.. Should I get another computer or will 2 be fine (one is a 840Mhz, 256 megs of ram, other is 350Mhz, 128 megs of ram)
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02-13-01 09:28 PM
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Gareth Leung
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Registered: Oct 2000 Location: Toronto Country: Canada State: Certifications: MCSE+I, i-Net+, CIW Associate, IT Project+ Working on:
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quote: Originally posted by Daviet:
...Is this out of 1000...
Yep.
quote: What all should I use for a Home lab, I thought 2 puters would be fine but am hearing 3 would be much better
3 would be the best.
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crazyska
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Registered: Nov 2000 Location: Cockeysville Country: USA State: Certifications: MCP Working on: Linux +, MCSE MCSA
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so basically you only have to get like a 62% on 70-210 to pass? is that correct? And how many questions are usually on the test
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02-13-01 10:24 PM
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Gareth Leung
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quote: Originally posted by crazyska:
so basically you only have to get like a 62% on 70-210 to pass? is that correct?
MS don't use percentage for scoring, they use actual points for score. Like you have to get 620/1000 to pass the Win2K Pro.
quote: And how many questions are usually on the test
70-210 - 50Q form-based
70-215 - 51Q form-based
70-216 - 55Q form-based
70-217 - approx 45Q form-based
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02-13-01 10:30 PM
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Daviet
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Registered: Sep 2000 Location: In A House Country: Canada State: ON Certifications: A+. Network+, MCP in Windows Pro Working on: Anything dealing with IT
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Can I ask why the third Puter is needed, Is it for things like as BDC's and such? Im just wondering how important it is, If I have to, I will buy another system, But money is tight.. But if it will make a big enough difference in the long run I will go for it.
And for the three systems, Should I have two set up as Server and one as pro? or could one be 98? How exactly should I set this up ( I know its probably in my books, But as you can tell im really anxious )
Thanks Again )
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02-13-01 10:44 PM
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ccieToBe
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It would make a big difference to have three computers, although you could get along with two. Having three computers allows you to have two servers and a client interacting, which is nice to have for some of the more advanced topics (ie Clustering). The two PCs you have right now can both support Server, so you can get an old, cheap PC for your third one and run Professional on it. I don't know how much the MCSE material covers this, but it's important (knowledge wise) to try out 9X and NT on the network as well.
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02-13-01 11:33 PM
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Gareth Leung
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Registered: Oct 2000 Location: Toronto Country: Canada State: Certifications: MCSE+I, i-Net+, CIW Associate, IT Project+ Working on:
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quote: Originally posted by ccieToBe:
It would make a big difference to have three computers, although you could get along with two. Having three computers allows you to have two servers and a client interacting, which is nice to have for some of the more advanced topics (ie Clustering). The two PCs you have right now can both support Server, so you can get an old, cheap PC for your third one and run Professional on it. I don't know how much the MCSE material covers this, but it's important (knowledge wise) to try out 9X and NT on the network as well.
Also, you can install W2k Server in one, NT Server & W2K server in the second and Win9X and W2K pro in the third so you can test all the OS in one lab.
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