Let's face it certifications no longer mean much these days. Having a truckload of certitcations doesn't translate to more money these days. An MCSE just means you have given more money for Billy Gates.

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I hate to burst your bubble but certification hasn't translated into money without experience to back it up since the Dot.com bust of years ago. That is a very common misconception that passing a computer based exam = more $$$.

Ask yourself this, would you pay a desktop engineer extra money for passing the CCNA who has no hands-on experience with routers extra money because he passed an exam.

Its a Simple formula
Experience + Certification = Compensation

A howler monkey on meth can read a braindump.

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Certification only help you to enhance your ability and knowledge on specific product.

I had been saying that for the past six years...

Good Luck on finding a job. Job is out there..

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I've been in IT since 2000, and the exact same comments were made then.

All I can tell you is, almost every gig I've had has asked for a minimum level of academic knowledge, and the only way to assess such level is via certifications. I don't think I've had an interview where my certs wasn't brought up and commented on. Further, I was at an interview after my last contract where I was told that my MCSE in 2000 was insufficient. My current contract mandated having a CCNA.

So while certs may not equate to more/better money, it most certainly can open doors that will otherwise stay shut.

Be clear... certs are valuable. They just might not translate into better money.

mike

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Not if you are a black female.
In today's political climate,
certain races and genders are
being driven out of the IT
industry (after you answer your
survey).

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Being "driven" out? "Driven" out? Leaving... sure. But "driven" out? Please, humor me. How, in our day and age, would it be possible to "drive" out a gender or ethnicity?

Especially a black woman! Not only does that appear to be political suicide, but almost all black women that I know are incredibly militant when it comes to their rights, and are quick to point out any injustice/inequity, even if just perceived. Would you let yourself be driven out of the IT field?

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I was shortlisted for about five different jobs in desktop support in about a month. I'm a female, not black, but what I was seeing was that despite all the cry about "offshoring" there are some regions where there are shortages of entry-level or just past entry-level people. There are fewer high school graduates seeking training and education in IT than in previous years. Women are underrepresented in IT, and always have been, which is a shame, because it is a field where I've always been welcomed. In my experience, most IT managers I've interviewed with weren't looking specifically for a woman, but it's kind of a novelty to find a woman in our profession. Women tend to excel in the "soft skills" like commnication, which makes them excellent desktop support people. I capitalized on that in my resume and in the interviews, along with my tenacity and research skills. So if I was one of four people considered for a couple of jobs, three for one, and two for two others, that means that in our region, for this time frame, there were a maximum of 15 people considered for these five positions. And even fewer than that if you consider that I was a candidate for each of those five jobs, and there were probably other jobs where candidates overlapped.

What sort of "survey" are you having to complete that discloses your gender and ethnicity BEFORE an offer is made? Here in the United States, that's ILLEGAL. An employer can't even require a drug test until after an offer is made.

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Quit your whining already. Most of the women that I've seen in IT have been given special treatment. Often they have no passion for computers and are in it for the money. Usually someone who is actually productive has to settle for a lower salary to accomodate them.

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Let's face it if you are dark skinned, you are disadvantaged period. Also having an anglo saxon name like Richard the lionheart bumps you up the job queue than a name like Osama. Prejudice, discrimination exists even though it is unspoken. So what does one do? Give up living?

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Let's face it if you are dark skinned, you are disadvantaged period. Also having an anglo saxon name like Richard the lionheart bumps you up the job queue than a name like Osama. Prejudice, discrimination exists even though it is unspoken. So what does one do? Give up living?

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