Since you seem to be the only one that posts intelligent answers to questions I thought I would share with you what I found out doing my research for my recert on CCNA.

If you are doing a Recert you only have to take the ICND test. Cisco assumes if you had it before you should know the intro stuff so that is good news.

The weight of the exam is on the sims questions. Which really is annoying.

DO NOT abbreviate the commands in the sim. If I am wrong you loose nothing If I am right it will mean the difference between the pass and fail. No sh run type out the whole command.

when I tested in 2001 for the CCNA there was no sims so I am not looking forward to it.

I am someone who posted back in the day with Freak, Yeti, Someguy and those folks. Back then you could ask a question and get real answers instead of spam and the like I have seen out here. It is a shame but when a site gets this big it happens. But I would like to encourage you to keep up the good work. Also check out Icertify.net sometime thats where the most of the older folk have migrated to.

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The sims aren't bad, and they are weighted fairly heavily. You can use abbreviated commands, but like you said, it's better safe than sorry. And yes, this site is crap anymore. I rarely even visit anymore.

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Happy Monday guys,

Examnotes Cisco area is definitely inundated with SPAM and few posters at the moment. Like yourself though, this place really helped me when I was starting off in the certification world so I'm sticking it out. New threads are also getting 50+ reads in one day (this one's at 57), so we still have an audience.

There have always been a lot of rumors floating around about sims. The most common one is that you have to copy run start (which is an abbreviation as well) in order to get any points on the sim. This isn't true, and abbreviations are also fine since they score you based on the final running config. I scored a 975 on the CCNA without copy run start and using abbreviations on every command. I did the same thing on my first CCNP exam last week with a 940 score. I know I missed a bunch of questions on that test, but nailed the sims, so the heavy sim weighting helped me in that case.

So when's your renewal due date? I bet you'll be able to zip through this fairly quickly. Food for thought on the full test instead of ICND: a lot of people fail the ICND compared with the # of people that fail the full test. INTRO questions are generally much easier so it's actually nice to get some of those by taking the combined test. I honestly don't know which way I'd go myself right now if I had to recertify. Tough call.

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I have to agree that the forum has taken a downward spiral lately. I used this forum when I got my CCNA in 2001, and also for my MS certs. Now I am taking my CCNA again because I let it expire and would really like to see this forum back at a level it once was, and could be again. The forum moderators really should be more on top of the SPAM and Brain Dump posts. I do not mean to bash or degrade the moderators by any means as I am sure that they want this forum to succeed as much as we do. But maybe they have too much going on and can not devote the time or effort needed to regulate the SPAM and Brain dump posts as they used too.

With that being said I would like to nominate "johnaspen" as one of the CCNA form moderators. I am not sure what the procedure is for this. Do I/We need to email the webmaster of the site, write a letter to Congress, or just wish upon a star?

Well back to studying, I want to get this cert knocked out by the end of the month.


Jason

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Checking on the moderator situation.....

Sexy Lexy was doing a great job but has been MIA since Aug 22nd. The other 2 listed moderators for the CCNA forum haven't posted for over 3 years.

Thanks for the nomination by the way. The CCNP section could use help as well and I'm more than willing to step in. I'm sure you've noticed that I'm not a big fan of all the spammers getting away with free advertising. They should all be paying Dmitri (site owner) for legitiate ad space.

JPaper007 - Since your CCNA lapsed and you'll have to take the full test (which isn't a big deal), have decided on taking the combo or doing INTRO/ICND separately?

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Going for the 640-801 Combo. Actually I have taken it twice already. First time after the company sent me to a class. Had everything down pat or at least I thought I did until a NAT Sim hit me on the exam. I used the 5th Edition Sybex book which only has 1 paragraph on NAT and nothing about how to configure it. The second time I missed it by 1 or 2 questions. I think I rushed it a little on that one because I was worried about time. I had almost run out of time on my first exam because I took to long trying to hash out the NAT sim.

This time is it. I got my Sybex book, CCNA Cert Sim, Cisco Press CCNA flash cards, and Transenders. Also my lab with 2x 2501's, 2509, 1605R, and Catalyst 2950. I have been working with Cisco equipment since 1998 but this exam is tough. I know CCIE's who have taken the new CCNA test just to see what they are covering and they have failed it on there first attempt.

Best of luck with you on becoming a moderator for this forum and the CCNP forum. Sexy Lexi has done a great job in the past with this forum I just wish she was around more to get it back in shape. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help out.

Jason

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well after reading your replies I went back and checked and I have to take both the intro and the ICND. Crap. I let the silly thing expire last year and now I get stuck with both.

As far as the moderator of the forum goes send a note to Dimitri (webmaster) and let him know what has been happening. I agree
johnaspen would be a great choice.

This site helped me through nearly all of my certs so I really want to see the resource kept up to snuff.

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Doh!? Oh well. I'm assuming you're going to just take the 640-801 combo then since your CCNA also expired and you already have a good base. There's been a lot of discussion on taking the INTRO/ICND compared to just taking the combo, and most would agree that the single test route is prefered for this particular test.

Just to sum it up if you haven't read any debates: normally two tests sound easier than one since you can focus on less material. Generally most 2-test route takers breeze through the INTRO test (full of easy questions), and then get killed on the ICND (full of hard questions) and wish they would have just taken the combo. By taking the combo test you're going to get hit with a mix of easy and difficult questions, so statistically you do have a better chance of passing. INTRO and ICND also have a lot of crossover. The separate Cisco Press books have chapters that are exact duplicates between the two.

That's of course my highly opinionated view on the discussion . Someone else that took the two test route might be able to chime in here.....

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My cert expires in June. I'm taking the combined 801, I never understood the reason they seperated it anyway. After that I'm going to start studying for a TICSA. Then I don't know if I realy what to go down the path of CCNP. I've tried to go down the path before and got bored or distracted.

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