Hi,

Currently i'm working on my CISSP certification. I've got the approval from my company to attend the training course. I would appreciate if you can recommend the best Training center or the Boot camps in and around NY,NJ.

Any thoughts/experience with ISC2 recommended Boot camp "The Training Camp" in PA?

Thanks in advance for your responses

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HI, I'm scheduled to go to the weeklong bootcamp in Bushkill PA (that's in the poconos in a resort) 4/18-24

too bad I won't enjoy it since I heard that it's 8-8 M-F, after dinner, more review, Sat is review, then Sun, you take the Exam right on site.

The total cost is about $4,500, which includes the logding and meal, and exam.
My company is sponsoring my costs.
You can find out from this training from the ISC2 website.

Originally I was deciding which-- NYC or BUSHKILL, I decided on Bush because NYC there's too much distraction.

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wow, with a schedule like that, you'd better show up with an already impressive core of related skillsets and knowledge. Enjoy the training

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Thanks Pixhead and goodluck on your training camp.

Pls. let me know your experience and do you find it worth?

thanks

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How is that training coming along? I'm sure you haven't checked email or this site this week with that hectic schedule.

There's a one-week course coming up not too far from where I live and the cost will be about $2k (no lodging, meals or exam voucher). I don't really have much of a security or audit background, so I'm wondering if this will be a waste at my current skillset level. Maybe I should just get a Shon Harris book and save $1,950 until I feel more comfortable with the subject. I plan on taking the Security+ exam in the not too distant future.

Any suggestions?

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I would most definitely not attend that training if I were you. 2 reasons.

1. If you are considering taking the sec+, then you do not have the background for the CISSP. The book you mentioned is good. Give it a go before you spend money on training.

2. The CISSP in one week? That doesn't seem enough time to me to be serious...

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Thank you freak for the honest reply. I'm nost definitely not at your level, so if that's your recommendation, I'll hold off for a while. I can only guess the training is some sort of "refresher" course for security professionals who already have a ton of experience. Either that or they plan on reading a Shon Harris book outloud very fast.

I'll save the $2k for my mortgage

Best of luck to you in your classes pixhead and sketan

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First, I was just notified that I passed the CISSP exam I sat for on April 16th. Don't congratulate me yet, because I still have to get an endorsement letter signed and submit my resume/cv for the rest of the process.

Second, about training, if you haven't been studying the material for at least 6-8 weeks for several hours a day regardless of your skills, don't sit for the test. A training class would only be necessary if you just don't understand some critical items in specific domains.

Third, my formula was as follows: get the (ISC)2 official text, read the Shon Harris book as well. Use the following web site and its practice tests:

http://www.cccure.org/

If you are still not averaging 80% or better on practice tests, then consider a course. which is what I did, I took a course specifically to address items that I couldn't grasp well from research.

Another way to approch it is to take a course and then study for a few weeks. I took a week off from work and really concentrated prior to taking the exam.

My point is that you should be well prepared before attending any course, the (ISC)2 courses are probably the most complete and demanding. The course I took was not an (ISC)2, but it did help me on the points I was missing.

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Good day Freak and all,

First of all I would like to thank em_ar_ducks for the nice comments about my cccure.org web site.

It seems to be a perception out there that ISC2 has the best training that one can offer. This is most certainly NOT the case.

I have peruse, develop, or taught the CISSP package from the Following companies: SANS, Logical Security, ISC2, and Intense School to name a few. I am very familiar with all of the above curriculums, personnally I would rate the ISC2 package as last in this list.

The ISC2 package still provide students with material the way it was done 10 years ago. You have the default Power Point print out of 3 slides per page with lines beside them to take note. There is no text to help the student in their review effort after the class, there is no value added like all of the other companies mentioned above. If I was to take a boot camp, ISC2 would be the last one on my short list. Any of the other one would come before them.

Finally, I would like to do a shameless plug. I hope you will pardon me but I think that it might interest quite a few out there. I have talked to Shon Harris and I was able to get a real good deal on her CBT package for the CISSP. I can offer it for $300 while amazon.com sells it at $900 for a copy. Send me an email at cdupuis@cccure.org if interested.

Those copies I am selling are not bootlegged copies, they are original copies that I have bought from Shon Harris as I am now a registered reseller for her CBT. The reason I can offer them at that price is simply because I am selling them with a very minimal profit margin instead of selling them with 300% to 400% markup like others do.

See detailed description at:
http://www.cccure.org/modules.php?n...article&sid=527

Best regards to all and good luck with your certs

Clement

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Clement,

First I want to tell you thanks for all of the information your site provides, I was referred to it in several of the books, Shon Harris', as well as others. What a wealth of information!

Just to follow up, I absolutely made an assumption that the (ISC)2 training would be more complete than any other comparable course. (I have no experience with the course myself so I will take your word for it). My feeling is that a typical 40 hour course taught 8-5 M-F, will pretty much make your head hurt. Which is why I always recommend that you be fully familiar with most of the material prior to taking a class like that, you definitely need to be ready to ask questions at the appropriate time to fully grasp certain concepts.

The course I took was not endorsed by (ISC)2, it was a 40 hour course spread over a 3 week period, 4 hours tue/thurs, and 1 all day session on a saturday. This schedule allowed time to digest the information and read ahead for the next class. We also had practice quizzes and a full-on 225 question practice exam to use after the class completed. (the class cost $2500, and my employer paid for it, which is why I did it)

I took the class after doing about 6 weeks of self study using the (ISC)2 text. Which I found to be a reasonable reference, and like all references, requires supplemental material occasionally.

Anyway, as a final note, I have seen some of the Shon Harris video series, and if I were totally on my own I would consider them a very good deal at $300. Add in about $200 more to buy the Shon Harris All-in-one, the (ISC)2 text, and a few others, and most people who put the effort in to concentrate and study should pass the exam.

The real investment in this or any cert. is the individuals time. I like well structured training for the face to face interaction with experts/peers.

I can attibute my success to several things:

1. 20+ years of experience with almost 6 of the 10 domains.

2. Solid study habits for a total of 10 weeks.

3. Use of the "cccure" website

4. Being well rested the day of the exam.

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