I wish he didn't tell me this. But he did, but then he
might be joking. I'm the guy also does the inventory for
our tech department. And our inventory isn't that neat
because lots of activities go on daily.

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Tell him to bring them back by the end of the week.


On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 21:19:48 -0700, rem <rem@system.com> wrote:

>I wish he didn't tell me this. But he did, but then he
>might be joking. I'm the guy also does the inventory for
>our tech department. And our inventory isn't that neat
>because lots of activities go on daily.

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stop being such a wuss
take some more stuff and blame it on him..

"rem" <rem@system.com> wrote in message
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> I wish he didn't tell me this. But he did, but then he
> might be joking. I'm the guy also does the inventory for
> our tech department. And our inventory isn't that neat
> because lots of activities go on daily.

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Seriously, I've seen this before. It starts with a cable or card and soon
becomes monitors and whole systems. You need to have him return them and
make sure he understands, in no uncertain terms, this is not to happen
again. Document everything that is said and done. Get a senior manager to
issue a reminder notice that inventory is not for personal use.
This is stealing. Since you maintain the inventory it is you that will
suffer when shortages occur. You will be held responsible and could
conceivably loose you job, miss promotions or get bad reviews.
This is serious and should be treated as such. He is screwing with your job
and responsibility to the company that pays you and trusts you to manage the
inventory and keep things profitable. That is not something to be taken
lightly.
You might want to be friends and stay buddy-buddy with everyone but this guy
is stealing and could be taking you down with him. Now that you know, if
you don't do anything about it, you are just as guilty. When he is caught
by someone else, his first words will be that you, the inventory manager,
knew about it and didn't do anything so he thought it was ok. At that point
you are through with this company and could face legal trouble. Also, think
how hard will be trying to find a new job when you were let go for failing
to ensure the inventory and not reporting theft.
Think about it.

Good luck.

"rem" <rem@system.com> wrote in message
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> I wish he didn't tell me this. But he did, but then he
> might be joking. I'm the guy also does the inventory for
> our tech department. And our inventory isn't that neat
> because lots of activities go on daily.

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If he is indeed taking stuff, make sure you CYA (cover your a$$).

I have see many a department come down over one person being stupid.


"rem" <rem@system.com> wrote in message
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> I wish he didn't tell me this. But he did, but then he
> might be joking. I'm the guy also does the inventory for
> our tech department. And our inventory isn't that neat
> because lots of activities go on daily.

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"rem" <rem@system.com> wrote in message
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> I wish he didn't tell me this. But he did, but then he
> might be joking. I'm the guy also does the inventory for
> our tech department. And our inventory isn't that neat
> because lots of activities go on daily.

tell your supervisor... that's his job in these matters
it wouldn't surprise me if the company is doing this as a security test.

when i worked for a communications R&D company, it was routine for security
to call up it's developers pretending to be someone else and try to get
information from them. there were constant reminders to call security
whenever we see anyone in the building with no ID badge or recieving
suspecious phone calls.

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On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:44:41 GMT, "127.0.0.1"
<unavailable@spam-me.not> wrote:

>
>"rem" <rem@system.com> wrote in message
> news:ut83kvoo22nb4knpnpdgav036
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>> I wish he didn't tell me this. But he did, but then he
>> might be joking. I'm the guy also does the inventory for
>> our tech department. And our inventory isn't that neat
>> because lots of activities go on daily.
>
>tell your supervisor... that's his job in these matters
>it wouldn't surprise me if the company is doing this as a security test.
>
>when i worked for a communications R&D company, it was routine for security
>to call up it's developers pretending to be someone else and try to get
>information from them. there were constant reminders to call security
>whenever we see anyone in the building with no ID badge or recieving
>suspecious phone calls.
>

If you ever get this question in a job interview: "What would you do
if you saw another employee stealing?" the correct answer is something
like you mentioned above ('tell your supervisor'). I.e. turn him in
and string him up. This is what the HR person is expecting to hear.

I got this question in an interview and without thinking said, "I
would tell him to put it back." WRONG! I was practically laughed out
of my job club when I reported my answer. I didn't get the job. :-)

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I agree...100%.....your friendship has to stop at the front door, and you,
as the asset manager, absolutely have to confront your friend, as well as
management, about this issue.....items must be returned yesterday, if not
sooner....If your friend is a true friend, then he will understand your
position as the asset manager, and will not do this again...

Ron


"Tolkien Reader" <estervated99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Seriously, I've seen this before. It starts with a cable or card and soon
> becomes monitors and whole systems. You need to have him return them and
> make sure he understands, in no uncertain terms, this is not to happen
> again. Document everything that is said and done. Get a senior manager
to
> issue a reminder notice that inventory is not for personal use.
> This is stealing. Since you maintain the inventory it is you that will
> suffer when shortages occur. You will be held responsible and could
> conceivably loose you job, miss promotions or get bad reviews.
> This is serious and should be treated as such. He is screwing with your
job
> and responsibility to the company that pays you and trusts you to manage
the
> inventory and keep things profitable. That is not something to be taken
> lightly.
> You might want to be friends and stay buddy-buddy with everyone but this
guy
> is stealing and could be taking you down with him. Now that you know, if
> you don't do anything about it, you are just as guilty. When he is caught
> by someone else, his first words will be that you, the inventory manager,
> knew about it and didn't do anything so he thought it was ok. At that
point
> you are through with this company and could face legal trouble. Also,
think
> how hard will be trying to find a new job when you were let go for failing
> to ensure the inventory and not reporting theft.
> Think about it.
>
> Good luck.
>
> "rem" <rem@system.com> wrote in message
> news:ut83kvoo22nb4knpnpdgav036
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> > I wish he didn't tell me this. But he did, but then he
> > might be joking. I'm the guy also does the inventory for
> > our tech department. And our inventory isn't that neat
> > because lots of activities go on daily.
>
>

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So let me get this straight, you're the inventory guy, and by your own
admission, you haven't been doing your job, and now you want to make
allegations against someone when you have absolutely no proof? Not a smart
move. Unless you actually saw this guy take the stuff home, or have other
witnesses that can back you up, you might be opening yourself up to a
slander lawsuit if he gets fired. As for the guy's statement, people say
things all the time that shouldn't be taken seriously, and it sounds like
you're not even sure he's wasn't joking or kidding. Be careful if you
decide to follow the advice of all these morally-superior people who
responded to your post. They're not the ones who will suffer if this blows
up in your face.

"rem" <rem@system.com> wrote in message
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> I wish he didn't tell me this. But he did, but then he
> might be joking. I'm the guy also does the inventory for
> our tech department. And our inventory isn't that neat
> because lots of activities go on daily.

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See this as your wake up call. As mentioned in previous replies to this
thread, if you can't tell if something is missing, how can you make an
allegation or enforce a policy? First get your house in order, make a
complete inventory, document and tag everything, match everything (as much
as possible, with real old equipment) to invoices, work with your manager,
CEO, CFO or whoever is in charge...to set up an ordering, install and
tracking policy for equipment and how it is issued. set up some regular
inventory controls, to include spot checks of computers, to the component
level, if boxes aren't locked..

You can do an Ashcroft, publish policy that future "confessions" of employee
theft will be taken seriously and are subject to serious consequences, up to
and including termination. From that point forward, you are legally covered,
technically, if a person is not informed that theft is punishable, then you
haven't shown diligence in the eyes of the law. Stupid! Yes, but its the
way things are in the Brave new world.

Realistically, you may not get all these controls in place, but the effort
should signal a level of responsibility that should be welcomed by your
management, proactive efforts usually are appreciated more than remedial. It
should also alert potential thieves (maybe improved hiring policies will
alert you to suspicious candidates?) that inventory controls are in place
and deter future thefts, jokes or admissions?

Way more than you thought...but that's the way things are. You didn't
mention the size of your company, user base? That has a bearing on how
serious the problem could be and how receptive management might be to
establishing inventory controls.

"rem" <rem@system.com> wrote in message
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> I wish he didn't tell me this. But he did, but then he
> might be joking. I'm the guy also does the inventory for
> our tech department. And our inventory isn't that neat
> because lots of activities go on daily.

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