I remember in 1999, a friend of mine who just got his bachelor in MIS started with 60k ,at that time I just got my high school degree. I had a dream when I ll get a bachelor I ll have a chance to get a goooood job.but guess what this administration destroys our dream, no jobs,IT SUFFERS the most my friend who get a degree in marketing and accounting some of them get a job , but most of MIS none of us get a job.
This administration stills have only a few month to fix this economy, or they will join us (JOBLESS PEOPLE).

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I do agree that the Bush administration needs to do a better job of addressing the situation. But no matter what they do it's not going to help you get a job unless you work at it. It's not going to be any easier in any other field. They are all saturated. There isn't anywhere near the jobs available to fill even half of all the college graduates every year. It's an employer's market, unfortunately. That just means we have to work that much harder! Good luck to you all!

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No kidding,friends!

A Friend of mine, member of this Board as well,went to an Interview this last Friday.
Mind you, he's a MCSE, and a pretty good one. (at least in my opinion).
The City of Huntington Beach had 15 Openings to fill in their IT-Structure, all from Techs to DBA's.
Guess, how many People showed up?

....you


...will


...not


...believe it!


about 4000 !!!

The poor guy stood in line for 6 hours just to answer 12 questions, got severly sun burned and is frustrated as Hell.
Thank God i own my own business.I could not handle that, no way!
Same thing going on over in Germany(i keep close contact to Friends/Family) were 300 to 400 People show up for one lousy Tech-job.They are asking you to know Win2000/NT4/Oracle/Novell-6/Cisco, and all they will pay you is $45000/Year?
Come on!

just venting....

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Teck Shark
I do agree with u in the fact I should solve my problem by myself. But this administration kills the economy in the previous administration they were a lot of jobs ( 25Millions new jobs 7 Millions in IT)even some companies hires people from other countries.
We need a better president who cares about americans by using all his power to allow us to have a better live. Every day instead of creating new jobs this country loses thousands of job in every field.

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It isn't the administration that kills jobs. Although at times they are greatly affected. Jobs are people. People can make things happen. People hurt the IT economy. People gouged and took advantage of the IT boom and look at what you have now.

Here is an example. You hire a developer here in the US and you pay him $50 an hour. He does a half-way job sorry job and abuses you if possible. You hire a developer overseas and pay him $10 an hour and he does a fantastic job and wants to work. Now, consider this, if you were in business, what would you do? Let your business go down the tubes because of the type of people here?

Personally, I think it is rather sad that we have to do this in this country.

Just some food for thought.

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I do empathize with people who are having difficulty finding jobs. I just believe that reality must set in here at some point. I am distressed at how many respond, which is mostly complaining and blaming.

Economists have concluded regarding labor theory that a work force has only one of two things to offer: the ABILITY to do something that no one else can do or the WILLINGNESS to something that everyone can do for a lower wage. IT is not different. Either you possess skills that make you valuable and a rare catch to a firm or you are willing to do common tasks and take a lower wage. This is life. This is how it is. No one owes you anything- not hiring firms, not the President, not Bill Gates. Either you compete in what is now a limited market or you wait for the opportunities to expand and try again when competition is not so fierce.

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Welcome to the club...

I am problem seeking job, too...

Job is out there, but it required experience!!!!

Many college graduate don't have enough experience and the school education actually don't teach them (include myself) even skill to meet today high level tech demand...

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Some of your guys way of thinking just amazes me.


We have the greatest terroist attack of all time. We goto war. Our economy is in a slump. You blame it on bush? gimmie a break.

IT is in a downsizing. They hired too many without degree's and only on certifications. Now we see all these "Experienced Certified IT professionals without jobs"

Well its because they demand so much money without a DEGREE. Degree's still mean something to companies.

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IT is in a downsizing. They hired too many without degree's and only on certifications. Now we see all these "Experienced Certified IT professionals without jobs"

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