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Question Certified Ethical Hacker?

What are your thoughts on this Certification? Do you think it will be able to stand it's ground in the Security Arena? In short, is it worth the effort and $$$?

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While, by taking the certification, does'nt mean that we will have a strong foot into the IT Security. The knowledge and exposure, gain from the course definately will help you in term in this path. Frankly speaking, do we really know how hacker hack the system, what tools are they using, how they exlore the expoilt and cover their tracks?

In US, the intenseschool is also running this course. According to them, is one of the popular hacking course so far. They are other company offering the same stuffs like foundstone.

So,even if the person is a CISSP or SSNP or something else. Do, they really know and confident to protect their organization network from the hacker. A hacker will use all means and ways to get into your network. And the CISSP dun even know how hacker thinks, how the hell is he going to protect his network.

In singapore, most of the CISSP are well rounded, they took classes on hacking, risk assessment and other courses. To fully equip their knowleges on IT Security

Go for the knowledge instead of certifications.

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Poinnt taken, but looking at it from an employment angle...isn't a company rather going to employ someone based on the formal qualifications rather than knowledge they claim to have?

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While, i agree with you, the formal qualification is also important. Additional certifications and knowlege definately will also help in the career path in long run.

Summary, experience, qualification, knowledge and certifications are important to us, if we wish to excel in this IT industry.

Cheers !!!

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Ethical Hacking - Hmmmm....

Starting a 6-month intensive burn the brain course...

Fully Hands-on.

Goal 4 Cert in months and full y functional in at least 2 OS's (but hey why not learn a little about Novel and OS2, cause you can...)

Recon
Audit
Attack
Clean-up
Hide in Plain site
Defense

Hard Drive Forensics
Virus, Worms, and Trojans, on my...

And what about Social Engineering? Nice trick for an interview...

After all business is war and "all's fair in love and war"... where the end justifies the means...

Ever heard of the OSSTMM...

I intend that all students use it for a bible...

Nice to have a thorough guideline to audit and to build a solid defense...

Think castle and moat...

Then think Ninja and Samuri...

Now you have an Ethical Hacker...

The Ethics of a Samuri, coupled with the skills and armament of a Ninja...


Hide in Plain site - Check
Weapons of Mass Destruction - check
Strong Armor - check
A few more secrets...

After all, it takes a Hacker to find a Hacker...

Final Exam - Find a Hacker Tool's Archive - Hack in (anyway you can) and retrieve at least 3 Gigs of the best tools you can find...

Bonus Points for 0-Day Tools...

Anyone care to ante up...

Oh yes... I might advise that your personal PC or Palm be armored before such an undertaking into a Dragon's Hoard...

Care to live the adventure?

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MCSE+I, MCSE, MCP+I, MCPS MCT
MCSA/MCSE 2000 + messaging
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CCEA CCA LBS ICAS RMS IMS CCSP
Certified Ethical Hacker
Cisco Voice Certs: UCSE
A+ Network+ I-Net+
Certified Internet Security Specialist
Cisco WLAN SE/FE
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dear comblues

CCNP+MCNS CCDP CCDA CCNA CSE
MCSE+I, MCSE, MCP+I, MCPS
CCEA CCA LBS ICAS RMS IMS CCSP
A+ Network+ I-Net+
Certified Internet Security Specialist
Cisco WLAN SE/FE
CCIE-Written (88%)
Cisco Global Product Support AVVID Field Engineer (VoIP, R&S, CAT 4224, and ICS 7750)

wow! boy, i am impressed and motivated with ur certs. congrats and all the best for ccie lab and other certs

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Comblues,

You're on, save for the final. The only way you're going to find 3 gigs of Hacking/Cracking tools from a single person is if they're nothing more then a script kiddie.

So where shall we start?

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