I came across this employment opportunities page recently on a computer
store's web site. Note what it says about "certification papers". I don't
mind someone telling me I need 2 years experience to qualify for a job, but
these jerks are basically saying they consider certifications worthless.

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oops, here's the link:

http://www.atic.ca/job.htm

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"Tim Blanchard" <toolmantim@SPAMFIGHTERshaw.ca> wrote in message
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> I came across this employment opportunities page recently on a computer
> store's web site. Note what it says about "certification papers". I
don't
> mind someone telling me I need 2 years experience to qualify for a job,
but
> these jerks are basically saying they consider certifications worthless.

I see ads like that from time to time and the author of that job listing is
no doubt bitter about something relating to certifications. Hell, I once
saw an ad on Monster that said "MCSE's need not apply." Almost as if being
certified was equivalent to being branded with a scarlett letter on your
forehead.

You don't want to work for anyone like that. Skip it...

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LOL

__________________
i couldn't get it up until i visited examnotes.net

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I think what that ad means more than anything is that they value experience
over certification. Personally I think along those lines myself after many
years in the hospitality industry. I used to get young chefs come from
trade school with more certs than I will ever have and I wouldn't trust them
to boil an egg. My standard comment was Wow - you have great
certifications, now you start to actually learn your job.


--
RussS
MCP W2K Pro & Server, A+, Net+

http://www.techexams.net/

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I wouldn't apply simply because of the several easily correctable
grammatical errors on the site. The site itself doesn't look very
professional and their grammer looks very unprofessional. No dought they
would throw a resume with poor grammer or spelling in the trash but they
don't make the effort on thier site.


"Tim Blanchard" <toolmantim@SPAMFIGHTERshaw.ca> wrote in message
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> I came across this employment opportunities page recently on a computer
> store's web site. Note what it says about "certification papers". I
don't
> mind someone telling me I need 2 years experience to qualify for a job,
but
> these jerks are basically saying they consider certifications worthless.
>
>

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On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 02:34:13 -0800, "SBFan2000"
<webmaster@glenngriffith.com> wrote:

>No dought they
>would throw a resume with poor grammer or spelling in the trash

Oh, I can't do it....it's just too easy.





>
>"Tim Blanchard" <toolmantim@SPAMFIGHTERshaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:7ywfa.534075$Yo4.33078641@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
>> I came across this employment opportunities page recently on a computer
>> store's web site. Note what it says about "certification papers". I
>don't
>> mind someone telling me I need 2 years experience to qualify for a job,
>but
>> these jerks are basically saying they consider certifications worthless.
>>
>>



I resisted 'till I couldn't take it anymore.

(sigh) Address altered against Spam.

Replace the -at- and put the "spring-mind" in the correct order

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>>No dought they
>>would throw a resume with poor grammer or spelling in the trash
>
>Oh, I can't do it....it's just too easy.
>

I'll just point out a cpl..
It's doubt, not dought
grammar, not grammer.

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Hey Tim,

One thing that I have seen in the near past, the certs get you the
interview, your experience gets you the job. I agree with SBFan, the site
is very unprofessional, and it looks like some guys got together and started
this business. They probably figured that they could install a keyboard, so
start their own business... Once they figured they could install ram, they
were good to go... LOL

Chances are, they got some really good tech in there, and showed them how
little they knew. Now they have that 'bad taste' in their mouth...

On the other side of the coin, I agree with Russ. Please, all, do not take
this the wrong way... but certs do not AUTOMATICALLY make you a pc god. I
work in industrial trades and I have worked with guys that just got out of
school with electrical... I still wouldn't trust them to play with 3 phase
480 VAC. It's a learning process, no different in electrical as it is in
the pc world. In my example, it's great that they know the theory of 3
phase, etc.. but I still like to make sure that they are being safe.
Nothing beats real world experience.

Also, read a bit about certifications. They were originally setup to
'gauge' a person's experience. It gave employers an idea of what 'level'
your knowledge went to. Over time, MCSE hit the market, and it was more of
a training then a gauge. Since then, it's metamorphasized into all sorts of
definitions...

(putting soap box away...)

Hoot

"Tim Blanchard" <toolmantim@SPAMFIGHTERshaw.ca> wrote in message
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> I came across this employment opportunities page recently on a computer
> store's web site. Note what it says about "certification papers". I
don't
> mind someone telling me I need 2 years experience to qualify for a job,
but
> these jerks are basically saying they consider certifications worthless.
>
>

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this is a newsgroup not a resume or a job posting!

"The Kid" <xatax2k1@aol.common.net> wrote in message
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> >>No dought they
> >>would throw a resume with poor grammer or spelling in the trash
> >
> >Oh, I can't do it....it's just too easy.
> >
>
> I'll just point out a cpl..
> It's doubt, not dought
> grammar, not grammer.[/color]

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