Hi.
Ok, i am seeking wisdom from you guys on the most basic home network in
history.
I have a desktop with a nic inside. This pc is running WinXP.
I also have a laptop with a pcmcia card inside. This laptop is running
WinXP.

First i connected using a cable, directly from the desktop to the laptop.
The nic on the desktop claimed to be disabled because the cable was
unplugged. The laptop nic was enabled.
Secondly i connected both through a hub and the results reversed.
Now the laptop says the cable is unplugged.

You guys have probably seen this a million times. Help.
I used the WinXP disk to setup the networking on both PC's and in system
manager both have no problems.
Any help would be great.

Darren

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On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 14:12:27 -0000, "1470"
<wifbwqsiswl@REMOVEyahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Hi.
>Ok, i am seeking wisdom from you guys on the most basic home network in
>history.
>I have a desktop with a nic inside. This pc is running WinXP.
>I also have a laptop with a pcmcia card inside. This laptop is running
>WinXP.
>
>First i connected using a cable, directly from the desktop to the laptop.
>The nic on the desktop claimed to be disabled because the cable was
>unplugged. The laptop nic was enabled.
>Secondly i connected both through a hub and the results reversed.
>Now the laptop says the cable is unplugged.
>
>You guys have probably seen this a million times. Help.
>I used the WinXP disk to setup the networking on both PC's and in system
>manager both have no problems.
>Any help would be great.
>
>Darren
>

Have you tried different cables?

Tom

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Hello Tom, i havent given up on this networking lark just yet. Ok. I have a
blue cable and a yellow cable.
Desktop- blue to hub
Laptop - yellow to hub

I have swapped, and at this moment, i still have the laptop pcmcia card
claiming to be unplugged and the desktop is working ok

Thanks

Darren

"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 14:12:27 -0000, "1470"
> <wifbwqsiswl@REMOVEyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Hi.
> >Ok, i am seeking wisdom from you guys on the most basic home network in
> >history.
> >I have a desktop with a nic inside. This pc is running WinXP.
> >I also have a laptop with a pcmcia card inside. This laptop is running
> >WinXP.
> >
> >First i connected using a cable, directly from the desktop to the laptop.
> >The nic on the desktop claimed to be disabled because the cable was
> >unplugged. The laptop nic was enabled.
> >Secondly i connected both through a hub and the results reversed.
> >Now the laptop says the cable is unplugged.
> >
> >You guys have probably seen this a million times. Help.
> >I used the WinXP disk to setup the networking on both PC's and in system
> >manager both have no problems.
> >Any help would be great.
> >
> >Darren
> >
>
> Have you tried different cables?
>
> Tom

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First off you will need a crossover cable to connect directly from laptop to
desktop. If your using a hub make sure you don't have the dasiy chain
switched on.

"1470" <wifbwqsiswl@REMOVEyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi.
> Ok, i am seeking wisdom from you guys on the most basic home network in
> history.
> I have a desktop with a nic inside. This pc is running WinXP.
> I also have a laptop with a pcmcia card inside. This laptop is running
> WinXP.
>
> First i connected using a cable, directly from the desktop to the laptop.
> The nic on the desktop claimed to be disabled because the cable was
> unplugged. The laptop nic was enabled.
> Secondly i connected both through a hub and the results reversed.
> Now the laptop says the cable is unplugged.
>
> You guys have probably seen this a million times. Help.
> I used the WinXP disk to setup the networking on both PC's and in system
> manager both have no problems.
> Any help would be great.
>
> Darren
>
>

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Can i add, that the green light on the desktop nic is on. On the PCMCIA card
i have a connector for the cable. There are three words and three led's
ACT - green light on
0/100 - no light
Link - green light on.

Thanks

Darren

"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 14:12:27 -0000, "1470"
> <wifbwqsiswl@REMOVEyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Hi.
> >Ok, i am seeking wisdom from you guys on the most basic home network in
> >history.
> >I have a desktop with a nic inside. This pc is running WinXP.
> >I also have a laptop with a pcmcia card inside. This laptop is running
> >WinXP.
> >
> >First i connected using a cable, directly from the desktop to the laptop.
> >The nic on the desktop claimed to be disabled because the cable was
> >unplugged. The laptop nic was enabled.
> >Secondly i connected both through a hub and the results reversed.
> >Now the laptop says the cable is unplugged.
> >
> >You guys have probably seen this a million times. Help.
> >I used the WinXP disk to setup the networking on both PC's and in system
> >manager both have no problems.
> >Any help would be great.
> >
> >Darren
> >
>
> Have you tried different cables?
>
> Tom

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In article <3e7c6f4c$0$230$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>, "1470"
<wifbwqsiswl@REMOVEyahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi.
> Ok, i am seeking wisdom from you guys on the most basic home network in
> history.
> I have a desktop with a nic inside. This pc is running WinXP.
> I also have a laptop with a pcmcia card inside. This laptop is running
> WinXP.
>
> First i connected using a cable, directly from the desktop to the laptop.
> The nic on the desktop claimed to be disabled because the cable was
> unplugged. The laptop nic was enabled.
> Secondly i connected both through a hub and the results reversed.
> Now the laptop says the cable is unplugged.
>
> You guys have probably seen this a million times. Help.
> I used the WinXP disk to setup the networking on both PC's and in system
> manager both have no problems.
> Any help would be great.
>
> Darren

If you are connecting like devices (PC to PC), then you need a crossover
cable...

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This is what was included in the billy basic kit i bought.
It is a simple Unex 10Mbps Ethernet network in a box.
One 5 port 10Mbps hub
two 10/100 Mbps PCI adaptor
two 7.6m Cat 5 cable

In the laptop there is a EagleTec Ethernet Lan 100 Base PCMCIA card

Sorry for the basic info, but really appreciate you taking time to help

Darren

"Jerome Stanek" <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> First off you will need a crossover cable to connect directly from laptop
to
> desktop. If your using a hub make sure you don't have the dasiy chain
> switched on.
>
> "1470" <wifbwqsiswl@REMOVEyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3e7c6f4c$0$230$cc9e4d1f@n
ews.dial.pipex.com...
> > Hi.
> > Ok, i am seeking wisdom from you guys on the most basic home network in
> > history.
> > I have a desktop with a nic inside. This pc is running WinXP.
> > I also have a laptop with a pcmcia card inside. This laptop is running
> > WinXP.
> >
> > First i connected using a cable, directly from the desktop to the
laptop.
> > The nic on the desktop claimed to be disabled because the cable was
> > unplugged. The laptop nic was enabled.
> > Secondly i connected both through a hub and the results reversed.
> > Now the laptop says the cable is unplugged.
> >
> > You guys have probably seen this a million times. Help.
> > I used the WinXP disk to setup the networking on both PC's and in system
> > manager both have no problems.
> > Any help would be great.
> >
> > Darren
> >
> >
>
>

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Hello:
I suspect one cable is a normal CAT5 cable and the other is a crossover.
I further suspect the yellow cable is the crossover.
As someone else said, to run a cable directly from one computer to
another, you should use a crossover cable. If you are using a hub, you
should use normal CAT5 cables for both computers.
--
regards,
bruce

The PC Guy
Bruce Von Deylen
South Bend, Ind. USA
Serving the computer impaired in northern
Indiana and southwest lower Michigan

E-mail: brucevd<at>michiana<dot>org


"1470" <wifbwqsiswl@REMOVEyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> This is what was included in the billy basic kit i bought.
> It is a simple Unex 10Mbps Ethernet network in a box.
> One 5 port 10Mbps hub
> two 10/100 Mbps PCI adaptor
> two 7.6m Cat 5 cable
>
> In the laptop there is a EagleTec Ethernet Lan 100 Base PCMCIA card
>
> Sorry for the basic info, but really appreciate you taking time to help
>
> Darren
>
> "Jerome Stanek" <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:tG_ea.102379$jP2.17692636@twister.neo.rr.com...
> > First off you will need a crossover cable to connect directly from
laptop
> to
> > desktop. If your using a hub make sure you don't have the dasiy chain
> > switched on.
> >
> > "1470" <wifbwqsiswl@REMOVEyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:3e7c6f4c$0$230$cc9e4d1f@n
ews.dial.pipex.com...
> > > Hi.
> > > Ok, i am seeking wisdom from you guys on the most basic home network
in[co
lor=darkred]
> > > history.
> > > I have a desktop with a nic inside. This pc is running WinXP.
> > > I also have a laptop with a pcmcia card inside. This laptop is running
> > > WinXP.
> > >
> > > First i connected using a cable, directly from the desktop to the
> laptop.
> > > The nic on the desktop claimed to be disabled because the cable was
> > > unplugged. The laptop nic was enabled.
> > > Secondly i connected both through a hub and the results reversed.
> > > Now the laptop says the cable is unplugged.
> > >
> > > You guys have probably seen this a million times. Help.
> > > I used the WinXP disk to setup the networking on both PC's and in[/color]
system
> > > manager both have no problems.
> > > Any help would be great.
> > >
> > > Darren
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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Hi.
Apparently according to the box, both cables are Cat5.
If i connect one of the cables directly from the laptop to the pc, only one
will work. If i turn off both computers, and remove the pcmcia card and
restart the laptop, and reconnect the card when windows boots up, it works
fine. As soon as the desktop pc boots up, the desktop nic gives the cable
unplugged error.
Now if i turn off both computers and connect a cable from the laptop to the
hub without any other cables plugged into the hub, turn off, remove pcmcia
card, restart and push in card on boot up, it works fine. As soon as i plug
the desktop into hub, the pcmcia nic gives the error.
The same is i do it with the desktop.
I can get both cards to work seperately, but not together.
The hub has 5 ports and an uplink port. It has no switches or buttons.
There would appear to be a conflict between the EagleTec PCMCIA nic and the
Realtec nic in the desktop.

Thanks

Darren
"The PC Guy" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello:
> I suspect one cable is a normal CAT5 cable and the other is a
crossover.
> I further suspect the yellow cable is the crossover.
> As someone else said, to run a cable directly from one computer to
> another, you should use a crossover cable. If you are using a hub, you
> should use normal CAT5 cables for both computers.
> --
> regards,
> bruce
>
> The PC Guy
> Bruce Von Deylen
> South Bend, Ind. USA
> Serving the computer impaired in northern
> Indiana and southwest lower Michigan
>
> E-mail: brucevd<at>michiana<dot>org
>
>
> "1470" <wifbwqsiswl@REMOVEyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3e7c77cd$0$231$cc9e4d1f@n
ews.dial.pipex.com...
> > This is what was included in the billy basic kit i bought.
> > It is a simple Unex 10Mbps Ethernet network in a box.
> > One 5 port 10Mbps hub
> > two 10/100 Mbps PCI adaptor
> > two 7.6m Cat 5 cable
> >
> > In the laptop there is a EagleTec Ethernet Lan 100 Base PCMCIA card
> >
> > Sorry for the basic info, but really appreciate you taking time to help
> >
> > Darren
> >
> > "Jerome Stanek" <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:tG_ea.102379$jP2.17692636@twister.neo.rr.com...
> > > First off you will need a crossover cable to connect directly from
> laptop
> > to
> > > desktop. If your using a hub make sure you don't have the dasiy chain
> > > switched on.
> > >
> > > "1470" <wifbwqsiswl@REMOVEyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:3e7c6f4c$0$230$cc9e4d1f@n
ews.dial.pipex.com...
> > > > Hi.
> > > > Ok, i am seeking wisdom from you guys on the most basic home network
> in

> > > > history.
> > > > I have a desktop with a nic inside. This pc is running WinXP.
> > > > I also have a laptop with a pcmcia card inside. This laptop is
running
> > > > WinXP.
> > > >
> > > > First i connected using a cable, directly from the desktop to the
> > laptop.
> > > > The nic on the desktop claimed to be disabled because the cable was
> > > > unplugged. The laptop nic was enabled.
> > > > Secondly i connected both through a hub and the results reversed.
> > > > Now the laptop says the cable is unplugged.
> > > >
> > > > You guys have probably seen this a million times. Help.
> > > > I used the WinXP disk to setup the networking on both PC's and in
> system
> > > > manager both have no problems.
> > > > Any help would be great.
> > > >
> > > > Darren
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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> In article <3e7c6f4c$0$230$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>, "1470"
> <wifbwqsiswl@REMOVEyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> > Ok, i am seeking wisdom from you guys on the most basic home network in
> > history.
> > I have a desktop with a nic inside. This pc is running WinXP.
> > I also have a laptop with a pcmcia card inside. This laptop is running
> > WinXP.
> >
> > First i connected using a cable, directly from the desktop to the
laptop.
> > The nic on the desktop claimed to be disabled because the cable was
> > unplugged. The laptop nic was enabled.
> > Secondly i connected both through a hub and the results reversed.
> > Now the laptop says the cable is unplugged.
> >
> > You guys have probably seen this a million times. Help.
> > I used the WinXP disk to setup the networking on both PC's and in system
> > manager both have no problems.
> > Any help would be great.
> >
> > Darren
>
> If you are connecting like devices (PC to PC), then you need a crossover
> cable...

Right
AND

When using a HUB, neither cable can be a crossover cable.

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