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Your Opinion Please
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DemiGod
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Registered: Feb 2002 Location: HockeyTown Country: United States State: Certifications: CNA 4.11, CNE Working on: A+
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Your Opinion Please
Since the forum is made up of people from all over the world, I think it's a great place to get honest opinions. So please, share with me and the other members your thougths on the situation in Irag.
Should Mr. Hussein leave Iraq?
Do you think the United States is right to take military action?
Do you support President Busch?
What are your thoughts on France's position?
Do you think the United Nations is taking the correct approach?
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03-18-03 01:02 PM
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mindmesh
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Registered: Aug 2002 Location: Philadelphia Country: United States State: Certifications: A+, MCP, MCSA +S, MCSE Working on: CCNA, LPI, RHCE
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QUOTE] Should Mr. Hussein leave Iraq? [/QUOTE]
Yes, he should leave Iraq. Anyone that can gas his own people, shouldn't be leading those people, or speaking for them.
quote: Do you think the United States is right to take military action?
Yes, we do. Unfortunately the rest of the world as shown its inability to act in the best interest of is citizens. We don't have those same post cold war views any longer.
quote: Do you support President Busch?
Damn Right. He is the first president that does what he believes to be in the best interest of this country regardless of public opinion. We don't elect people to office to be drones of society. We elect people to make decisions based on the information THEY have. I don't want my President asking my permission to protect my family. That is implied when he takes office.
quote: What are your thoughts on France's position?
France is entitled to their opinions. Fortunately I am entitled to boycott French products. I'm all for sending France a bill for all money they received from the US citizens, who they so quickly and adamantly SOLD OUT!!! They don't care about peace. They only care about their bottom line, and that bottom line says that Saddam owes them BIG TIME...
quote: Do you think the United Nations is taking the correct approach?
The United Nations is a weak-governing body. They have yet to disarm Saddam, but most of all they have yet to protect his people. This is their job and once again the US is doing their Job for them. Fortunately most Iraqi's welcome the liberation attempt, and I only hope they remember who stood against them in their time of need. As the French seem to forget who helped them in theirs.
Just my opinion.
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03-18-03 01:24 PM
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smite
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Registered: Jul 2001 Location: Country: United States State: Certifications: Working on:
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First I am not of fan of saddam.
I have a few issue with this war.
I am confused as how we switched suddenly from hunting Bin Laden to hunting Saddam.
Who says that the ppl of Iraq wants Saddam out.
Where is the proof of weapons of mass distruction, they are talking about?.
When you drop bombs on Bagdad who suffers more Saddam and his son, or the innocent ppl that Bush is trying to "free".
I am all for outsing Saddam but Bush Jr is taking the same approach as Bush Sr, shoot first talk later.
North Korea, has done 2 things:
shiped biochemical material, and ran UN observers out of their country,
yet they were not given any ultimatum and their ppl are crying for help..
Surprisingly, Blair has no opinion on the North Korean incident , or is he waiting on Master Bush to voice his opinion first, then second it.
And coincidentally, America just test the Mother of all Bombs, whilst looking to disarm Iraq.
As i said no fan of Saddam, But more so I HATE war.
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03-18-03 01:27 PM
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enforcer
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Registered: Jun 2002 Location: Wembley - Home of the big arch Country: United Kingdom State: Certifications: MCSE NT4, MCP 2K Working on: MCSE 2K 216,217 MCSA 2K 218
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03-18-03 01:48 PM
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mindmesh
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quote: I am confused as how we switched suddenly from hunting Bin Laden to hunting Saddam.
We keep catching Terrorists. Just because the media focuses on Iraq doesn't mean we arent' going after terrorists.
quote: Who says that the ppl of Iraq wants Saddam out.
The Shites to the South and the Kurds to the north, both want Saddam out and they make up the Majority of Iraq. If you follow news reports most Iraqi's outside of the MidEast do want Saddam out.
quote: When you drop bombs on Bagdad who suffers more Saddam and his son, or the innocent ppl that Bush is trying to "free".
Who Pays if we dont' go? More Iraqi's have died under Saddam's regime then died during the Gulf War. He gased his own people to the north, tortures anyone that disagrees with him. I would think we could infer that most people don't like being gased and tortured.
quote: Where is the proof of weapons of mass distruction, they are talking about?.
We proved it 12 years ago. The onus isn't on the US to prove he has them. It's on him to prove that he doesn't, which is an easy task if you really did it. You could give documents and samples to support your statements.
quote: North Korea, has done 2 things:
Shipped biochemical material, and ran UN observers out of their country,
Yet they were not given any ultimatum and their ppl are crying for help.
One at a time. See when we go unilateral we are the bad guys, when we try and go multilateral we are the bad guys. We will deal with one at a time. I personally would like to see Kim Jong il gone first but the point is he already has Nukes. We need to prevent Saddam from getting Nukes. Decisions must be made.
quote: Surprisingly, Blair has no opinion on the North Korean incident, or is he waiting on Master Bush to voice his opinion first, and then second it.
America finally has an Ally that stands up for us and we knock him down. This guy is risking his political career to help YOU stay safe and you just take shots at him. I wish more people in the US were like him. I don't see him riding the Bush coattails because where does that get him? Nowhere. He is doing what he believes to be right. If I'm wrong then that’s fine, I don't claim to be an up on my British politics. But either way you don't take shots at someone who is helping to protect you and your family.
quote: And coincidentally, America just test the Mother of all Bombs, whilst looking to disarm Iraq.
Tell me the last time we bombed and Gassed California. Please, tell me. Or tell me the last time we invaded Mexico and Canada. We only threaten those who threaten our way of life.
I find it Sad that 1 out of 3 Americans are more inclined to believe Saddam over our own Government. If he is such a great leader why aren't our people trying to escape Bush and live in Iraq?
Last edited by mindmesh on 03-18-03 at 02:02 PM
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03-18-03 01:52 PM
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mindmesh
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03-18-03 01:53 PM
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paullidd
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Registered: Dec 2002 Location: Country: United Kingdom State: Certifications: mcp Working on: mcse
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yes that would be good.
No what right do they have to interfere with another countries right to bear arms!!! (support for terrorist states - no prooof about iraq - usa---> support for IRA, support for contras in overthrowing democraticaly elected government. by the way was mr Bush democraticaly elected - I think not)
No way he's an unelected Dictator in charge of weapons of mass destruction who ignores the mandate of the free world (UN)
France arallowed to have their opinion and make their stand as they see fit (although it all smells of politics to me)
I think the UN were taking the right approach and should not be dictated to by an egotistical despot like Bush.
ps this is just my opinion
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03-18-03 02:30 PM
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mindmesh
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quote: No what right do they have to interfere with another countries right to bear arms!!!
When those arms have the potential to hurting US citizens, then we have a right to stop them. The US has a right to protect itself from foreign threats, and the government perceives Saddam as a threat to our allies and us.
quote: by the way was mr Bush democraticaly elected - I think not)
I'm not sure who's been blowing Smoke up your A$$ but the United States of America is not a Democracy. The United States of America is a Republic set up to prevent people like Al Gore from winning Elections. Al Gore only one about 21 states as opposed to Bush who won 30. He didn’t have a Majority of the population but that doesn't matter. What matters is that a Majority of the states vote the winner because otherwise the only states that would get anything done would be NY, TX, CA, PA, IL.
Need to know the History of your country. Again this is a Democratic-Republic only the Misinformed actually consider the US a Democracy.
quote: No way he's an unelected Dictator in charge of weapons of mass destruction who ignores the mandate of the free world (UN)
What about the un-free world? You leave out the poor Iraqi's that get tortured, raped, and oppressed. Does their opinion not matter to you? Guess not. If you check the facts Saddam has killed more of his citizens then the Gulf War did. How many more need to die before the other 33% of this country grow a set of Testicles?
quote: France arallowed to have their opinion and make their stand as they see fit (although it all smells of politics to me)
Agreed, Iraq owes France large amounts of Money. Russia has dibs on a huge oil field called West Kurna with about 220 Billion Barrels of oil.
quote: think the UN were taking the right approach and should not be dictated to by an egotistical despot like Bush.
What was the right thing? Sitting around and ignoring him? Hoping he goes away? That is all the UN has done for 12 years. The UN didn't do anything to help the Iraqi people, did they? Has the UN done anything to help anyone? No before they go we do it. What about Kosovo? Who did that? The US did without UN approval. Are you complaining about that? No..
I don't claim to be an expert on the topic. I have my own opinions as you have yours, but damn.. How can you not know your country is a Republic? It was set up as a republic mainly to do away with democratic elections because they are unfair.
Here is something to read written by James Madison
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03-18-03 03:47 PM
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RussS
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Registered: Sep 2002 Location: Hamilton Country: New Zealand (Aotearoa) State: Certifications: MCP W2K Pro & Server, A+, Net+, NZQA L3 Computing Working on: Security+, MCSA, Linux+
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hmmm - all valid points. However it does not change the fact that GeeDub is a loose cannon who is controlled by his pappys advisors and their oil baron cronies. Hell if there was any justice he would never have become president.
Back to reality and the legalities. NO country has the right to interfere in the internal matters of another soverign country. However, seeing that the United Nations is a total waste of time I can understand the reasoning behind the USA forcing the issue. Forget 1441 or any other resolution and go back to the end of the first gulf war - as part of the peace agreement Iraq agreed to destroy all weapons of mass destruction and never to rebuild them. That they forced out the UN inspectors and failed to comply with all matter relating to that agreement is all the justification the UN needs. Unfortunately it is left to the US to do this and therefore making them look like bullies. Time for the UN to shut its doors and fade into history unless they are prepared to accept their failings and address them immediately.
Now a far better option to war would be to assasinate Hussein and finish things once and for all. Being in exile is not going to solve things as his supporters will continue to strive to bring him back to power.
I might be wrong, but I stand by my opinions.
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03-18-03 07:50 PM
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mindmesh
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quote: Now a far better option to war would be to assasinate Hussein and finish things once and for all. Being in exile is not going to solve things as his supporters will continue to strive to bring him back to power.
Agreed. But if it was that easy it would have been done already.. Plus don't forget his Rapist, sadist, pedophilian sons of his.. They need to take a shot or two.
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