Server 2003 - server 2003 classes

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server 2003 classes

xakeP

2004-02-05, 4:39 am

has anyone attended any windows 2003 server classes?

if so, which one, and what where your thoughts.

I am going to take:
Course 2664:
Introducing Windows Server 2003 to Windows NT Server IT Professionals

and was wondering if anyone else has taken it, and what they thought.

here are the objectives
http://www.netdesk.com/CourseInfo/Outlines/2664.htm

jeff_j_black

2004-02-06, 12:45 pm

I have not taken a class, but Microsoft recognized training should deliver the exam objectives. It would be extremely to your benefit to go over the objectives and do a little study beforehand. That way you can capitolize on the class time to get hands-on and get answers to specific questions you have.

I have always found it hard to believe that a class that lasts a couple of sessions will give me the same in depth that I gain from hours of hands-on and self study. I spend several weeks, even months working through books, labs, follow up research, etc. to get ready for an exam. What can someone do for me in 16 hours? That's why if you take the course, be prepared as much as you can, so you can take advantage of the trainer for questions.

xakeP

2004-02-06, 7:29 pm

thanks for the tips. I got all my current certs and experience from self-study also. But my new empoyler wants to send me to Microsoft classes, and Im not compaining. Thats a good idea to go over the objectives before hand.

cheers

Luchnia

2004-02-06, 8:17 pm

Definitely go for any training you can. I have had to foot the bill for most all of my training, be it self-study or classroom.

From what I have seen in the class room environment, it is all about making a buck off of students by rushing them through in a week (which is only about 30 some hours really and costing anywhere from 1400-2600$).

A week long MS class is lame at best to teach anyone much when it comes to servers, AD, etc. Maybe an OS could be reasonably covered in a week, but that would be just the basics.

In most classes by the time you cover one subject you have to quickly move on to another. I found that the most any MS curriculum was way too much to cram into a week's class. Unless one is highly seasoned in MS it is not adequate. It might be OK on certain platforms, but not most of the MS stuff.

I spend hours upon end in my lab and going over and over CBTs, books, the Net, discussing with others, and working with equipment.

I agree with jeff, take as much as you can put under your belt before you go to class and you can glean much more from the time you spend there. I try to pick up the curriculum and go over it beforehand and then I am better prepared especially if there are labs available.

Peace

em_ar_ducks

2004-02-07, 12:22 am

I agree with what several have said. My classes were scheduled for two days a week, and every other saturday so I spent between 8 and 16 hours a week in the classroom.

This allowed me to actually get some work done, read ahead, and do independent lab work.

It also meant that a class that would be delivered in a 8hourday, 5 day week would take almost a month.

Everyone I have heard who took a full time class had problems keeping up.

My recommendation, don't turn down free training, but check to see if you can find a training center that paces the course out over something more than a week.

It is good to have a live instructor and a group of other students, things get discussed that you may never think of.

Luchnia

2004-02-07, 8:18 am

Don't you wish the training schools would listen to people like us? I am a fast learner and I still saw many problems. Everytime I filled out the end of class eval form I would write things like, too much information crammed into to short of a length of time, material not covered effectively, etc.

In the classes I was in if one person started asking questions thus slowing up the class, then we would have to cram over the next section with blazing speed to make the deadline. I realize what the instructors are up against, but there should be something done. One school I know tries to even cram the sessions together and all sorts of stuff. You have to wonder how long before a week's class will be attempted to be done in two days.

The companies pay for their people to get training and half of them don't really care. It is just a means to get out of work. I paid for much of mine and I expect to learn when in those classes. When companies paid for my training, I went to learn. Many are slackers and joke around and do not care about learning the material. That hurts classes too.

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