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Dragon-Z

2003-12-31, 8:47 pm

I was searching for info to decide which books to buy and happen to see this info.

Not only I am glad to see TK CEO is arrested and convicted, I am hoping, they arrest and convict all other exam sites mangements.

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They're braindumps. Not even brain dumps really, they're the actual test questions. For a higher version TK file, it may encompass 80-90% of the actual questions you will see on an exam, for newer versions it might be 15-20% Theoretically you could pass most of the certs just by studying the TK files, but it really won't help you in the real world if you do that. I suggest making a strong effort to learn the material and take other tests (ie: Tests that come with books) until you feel you are pretty proficient in the subject, then read the testking. They're lambasted within the IT community because they have helped proliferate the "paper" certs, however at US$100+ per test most people can't afford to fail, and since there are certain buzzwords like MCSE outside the IT world certs have become a neccessity. For instance, I saw a posting for a job the other day, "Network Engineer: Setup, manage, deploy cisco routers, switches, and implement cabling solutions. MCSE Required." MCSE required? How about oh, say, hmm... a cisco certification?? I guarantee that a CCIE would be turned down over a MCSE for this position, all because someone in HR has heard of MCSE. It's really sickening actually, as that is not an unusual posting here in the US. They want someone for desktop support, MS Office Support, Phone Tech Support, to clean the toilets, whatever, MCSE required.
Dragon-Z

2003-12-31, 8:51 pm

This is second part of Quote.
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M$ is fighting back. If they find out you use them , you can be decertified and denied any future opportunities of becoming certified again. They've also gone after TK. The original guy who set it up here in the US was arrested and convicted of stealing trade secrets (Apparently he was living a very high life--so people are certainly buying them) however there is some sort of Indian connection and the dumps keep coming. Some people are sweating balls right now because it hasn't been determined whether M$ is going to get his US customer list or not. Their new tests are designed to reduce your chances of passing using by using dumps (Shorter tests, simulations, etc) but they've made their tests so complicated you could legitimately know the material quite well and still fail, which just creates more demand for them.
jeff_j_black

2004-01-01, 9:38 am

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they've made their tests so complicated you could legitimately know the material quite well and still fail, which just creates more demand for them.


How does the urban legend go?: 'I knew this guy with 50 years of computer experience, he even worked at Microsoft and he still could not pass the exam.'

Preparing for an exam is much like preparing for a marathon. Sure, most everyone with two functional legs can walk, even run. Some can run fast for short distances, some can run slow for long distances. To win, you have to have mastered running, as well as understand the nature of the course you will run.

To lament about the complexity of the exams and close by saying that it creates the demand for dumps is a little foolish. It is like saying lots of money in banks increases the demand to rob them. Should banks not have money? Or should we cast or attention to the basic human conditions that are the root of cheating and dishonesty.

Weak character and laziness encourage brain dumping, not exam complexity. When you believe you can do something and put forth an unwavering effort, you will succeed or at least die trying.

Have you settled on a book yet?
Dragon-Z

2004-01-01, 12:08 pm

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Have you settled on a book yet?

No.. I haven't yet.
I heard good thing about MCSE Self-Paced Training Kit and same time I can not find any info about if this kit is for biginner or all level? I also do not know about if this kit comes with manuals on C/D like SYBEX or not.
When somone is using the reading glass, it is alot easier to read the materials in PDF.
jeff_j_black

2004-01-01, 3:40 pm

The self paced kit includes Windows Server 2003, PDF version and test engine on CD. As a beginner, do everything you can to get it running on at least two computers. If you have limited resources consider getting virtual software like Virtual PC or VMWare, which will let you have several machines running at the same time on the same computer. You must also get accustomed to using Remote Desktop and other tools remotely. The main thing to get you focus on is that no single book will be all you need. Really get familiar with the MS website and info from various third party vendors and certification sites. Jump in and good luck!
Dragon-Z

2004-01-01, 4:16 pm

Thanks for your info. I am going to buy the kit.
Basically I was looking for 2 things

1. I did not want buy book that covers alots basic. ( When I posted earlier about I practically fly through ComTIA exams with little study, I was not showing off. I worked in IT closed to 30 years. If I offended somobody because of my first thread, please accept apology.)
2. Comes with cd that contains manuals in PDF. ( it is so hard to read materials in paper books even with reading glass.)

Again, Thanks for all the info.

P.S. personally, I really don't care all these certications. The stupid employer demanding it.
The Cert Sage

2004-01-01, 5:18 pm

I don't think the CEO of Test King has been arrested. He is alive and well and profiting from braindumps as usual. He is in Pakistan not India. They don't recognize international copyright treaties. That's why the website still exsists.
jeff_j_black

2004-01-01, 5:24 pm

My thought is that there must be some unscrupulous or poorly managed testing centers that would enable people to obtain these questions.
JohnnyBeGood

2004-01-02, 1:22 pm

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Originally posted by jeff_j_black
My thought is that there must be some unscrupulous or poorly managed testing centers that would enable people to obtain these questions.


Jeff,

I often think the same thing. I think that the average test giver is just not doing an adequate job to monitor test takers. I don't see how anyone can get the questions unless they pull out a digital camera and snap away. This could be a case of payoffs in my opinion. The evil in people seems to leak out into every facet of life unfortunately.

JohnnyB
The Cert Sage

2004-01-02, 3:26 pm

I agree. A testing center has to be being paid off. Either to give them the downloads or turn their heads away while they take pics of the screenshots.
Tarzanboy

2004-01-02, 8:57 pm

I don't think it even requires having an entire testing center being paid off.

For instance:
1. Although some of the testing places I have been have had cameras fixed on the computers, not all have them. If they are there, what is the likelyhood the footage is review on a consistant, real-time basis by someone not sitting at the secretarial station?
2. Many of the tests are on removable media, usually hard drives. How difficult is it to dup a drive?

Cheers,
TB
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