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| jeff_j_black 2003-07-18, 11:51 pm |
| Well? What are we going to do about this one? Who is going? | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-07-19, 4:12 am |
| I'm probably dead meat, since I never tried 219 or 221, but someone has to lower the bar after animals like JB tear it up. 
Exam Date/Time: 13-Aug-2003 11:00 AM
Exam Name: Design a MS Win Server '03 Active Directory & Network Infras
Client/Exam Number: Microsoft 071-297
Cheers,
TB | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-07-19, 9:24 am |
| Did they ever let you take that one exam that kept disappearing into the future? | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-07-19, 3:18 pm |
| I have it tenatively scheduled for next week, but we shall see. 
Cheers,
TB | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-07-19, 10:01 pm |
| Judging by the requirement it looks like the
WS2k3 Deployment Guide might be worth a looksie on this one.
Cheers,
TB | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-07-19, 10:29 pm |
| Good call! That's what I was looking at. | |
|
| Hey tarzanboy what are u planing to use for 71-297. I know its kinda iffy on study material right now but i just wanted to get ur opinion. My exam is on the same day too!
Thanks! | |
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| *edit nvm
We just recieved the july Technet cd here at work. Has alot of w3k stuff relating to 71-297! yay. | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-07-22, 6:51 pm |
| Good deal.
Pretty much it looks like I will be digging through the M$ site, the 2k3 Server Help, reviewing my old 216 & 217 stuff, figuring out where the changes are in 2k3, giving the once or twice over on 219 and 221.
Cheers,
TB | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-07-22, 7:02 pm |
| I'm going on August 14th, keep us posted on how it goes. So far...
TB
ufot
and JB
...are going, who else?
Best of luck!!! | |
| ghaouf 2003-07-23, 5:37 pm |
| jb i am going on august 14th too | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-07-23, 6:50 pm |
| Okay, were up to:
TB, ufot, ghaouf, and JB. Anyone else? | |
| ghaouf 2003-07-23, 7:18 pm |
| i think the question are case study type questions | |
| isles1 2003-07-23, 7:35 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by jeff_j_black
Okay, were up to:
TB, ufot, ghaouf, and JB. Anyone else?
I will be going on the 14th as well | |
| RUSH2112 2003-07-23, 9:47 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by jeff_j_black
Well? What are we going to do about this one? Who is going?
Jeff,
I am taking this one on Aug. 14th. I am currently deeply involved with 70-228 so I am just going to skim over any 297 material I find and go in "blind". Since it won't count for anything, but it's free, I figured what the hell. I don't expect to pass, but you never know. Good luck to all who take this one... | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-07-23, 10:41 pm |
| Okay, we're up to:
TB, ufot, ghaouf, isles1, RUSH2112 and JB. Anyone else?
Good luck to all! Keep us posted. | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-07-24, 5:34 am |
| I should get a gold star for being unafraid to talk the exam before the 14th.
Cheers,
TB | |
| ghaouf 2003-07-24, 10:28 am |
| good luck to all | |
| Bink63 2003-07-24, 4:29 pm |
| Me & my intern (Pogo) are both taking 071-297 on the 14th as well!!!
Regards | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-07-24, 4:45 pm |
| TB, ufot, ghaouf, isles1, RUSH2112, Bink63, pogo and JB. Looks like a lot of beer will be consumed on the 14th, should we alert the brewers? | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-07-24, 9:31 pm |
| Pah! The 14th is for wimps.
Cheers,
TB | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-07-24, 10:01 pm |
| I'm actually in Reno on the 11th, migrating an office there to Windows Server 2003. | |
| ghaouf 2003-07-24, 10:22 pm |
| we just need to focus, and when any one passes please post some hints, and most importantly if the exam are regular question or study case type. | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-07-24, 10:27 pm |
| It probably will be in case study format. All the other design exams are. At least it will mean less reading! | |
| isles1 2003-07-25, 8:28 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Tarzanboy
Pah! The 14th is for wimps.
Cheers,
TB
I wanted to take it sooner, but I will be in Vegas for a week, returning on the 13th. At least I can read on the plane  | |
| ghaouf 2003-07-25, 1:19 pm |
| i would like to take it sooner too but i have the 70-218 exam on august 11th. | |
| CmptrDude1 2003-07-28, 10:30 pm |
| I'm attempting it on the 8th, but having no expectation because AD has not been in my area of study yet. | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-07-29, 10:52 am |
| CmptrDude1, best of luck! | |
| KScheler 2003-07-30, 4:29 pm |
| I was thinking about taking it on the 14th myself but haven't had a chance to schedule it yet.
Last week I went to a week long Windows 2003 training at New Horizons. We covered the basics and a lot of AD. You've got to check out the new Group Policy Managment tool. It's a free download from MS. It puts a whole new light on GP management. It will also work on a W2k network if you install it on XP with .NET framework installed.
Good luck all. | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-07-30, 6:14 pm |
| Yeah, the GP tool is really great! Cool to go to school on the bosses bill, huh! | |
| john94si 2003-07-30, 7:26 pm |
| Hey I am new here ..i need some materials to study i am on the 7th for my 297 exam here in Vegas.. so if any of you have any idea on some brain dumps or somehting that ouwld be great..
john94si@yahoo.com | |
| ghaouf 2003-07-30, 7:31 pm |
| first of all shame on you asking for braindumps.
and the best part is that you are an ediot there is no books for the exam how will you get braindumps.
were you invited? seems no, with only A+ | |
| john94si 2003-07-30, 7:43 pm |
| Hey .. F-YOU.. call me an idiot you dont know me.. and I dont know you. so you have no room to call me anything especially for only having A+ ..I have years of experience hands on.. not like many of these paper cert kids running around.. !!!
wow this is sure a friendly site.. and I hope you dont welcome others like this..
Yes I meant braindumps in like if anyone has some questions for samples.. thats all .. i know the test isnt out yet but maybe someone else has something they found.. | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-07-30, 8:15 pm |
| There are interactive questions for Windows Server 2003 on the Microsoft Website. And if you follow the link to the Deployment Guide above, you will find the neccessary documentation to prepare for the exam. That's all the dumps I got. | |
| john94si 2003-07-30, 8:24 pm |
| Thanks Jeff..yea i found your old links .. and i am browsing those now.. I appreciate it..
BTW looks like I will be the first one taking the Exam ..aug 7th..
i will post how it went..
thanks again | |
| isles1 2003-07-30, 8:34 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by john94si
Thanks Jeff..yea i found your old links .. and i am browsing those now.. I appreciate it..
BTW looks like I will be the first one taking the Exam ..aug 7th..
i will post how it went..
thanks again
Welcome John! JB's info is always top-notch. Good luck with the exam, and please post here after you sit for the test. Your feedback will likely be valuable here. | |
|
| quote:
Originally posted by jeff_j_black
Okay, were up to:
TB, ufot, ghaouf, and JB. Anyone else?
Has received the invitation from MS, but haven't found any testcenter yet supporting the exam | |
| ghaouf 2003-07-31, 6:57 pm |
| usualy transender releases the practice questions about a month after the exam goes public, the exam will go public in august. | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-07-31, 9:20 pm |
| He said Test center, not Transcender. He's in Denmark and it is hard to say what the Prometric and Vue affiliates are like there.
Cheers,
TB | |
| ghaouf 2003-07-31, 11:58 pm |
| sorry about that. | |
| Sorcerer 2003-08-04, 6:53 am |
| Sitting 7-8 at 12:30,
The only preperation is teaching a class of 2281 (designing Windows .Net Active Directory Infrastucture".
Currently i'm checking the differences between .Net and 2003. But is is a hard thing to do, any held is appriciated. B.t.w, Anyone even heard about Automatic Bridgehead Tuning???
Sorcerer | |
| Sorcerer 2003-08-04, 6:53 am |
| DOuble Post | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-08-04, 12:13 pm |
| There is a book called 'Delta Guide' that does a pretty fair job of highlighting differences. Check other threads here for a link to Design AD for 2003. The first few chapters will give you a good handle on it. Good luck!!! | |
| isles1 2003-08-10, 12:00 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sorcerer
Sitting 7-8 at 12:30,
The only preperation is teaching a class of 2281 (designing Windows .Net Active Directory Infrastucture".
Currently i'm checking the differences between .Net and 2003. But is is a hard thing to do, any held is appriciated. B.t.w, Anyone even heard about Automatic Bridgehead Tuning???
Sorcerer
So how did it go? | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-08-10, 1:40 pm |
| Do tell Sorcerer! How was it?
I did not book until last week, so I did not have my choice of dates. I will be going on Wednesday the 13th now. | |
| ghaouf 2003-08-10, 7:34 pm |
| so anyone did the test that could tell us how it was, easy, fair, hard, chease | |
| CmptrDude1 2003-08-11, 12:49 am |
| The beta exam got delayed and won't be released for testing until Tuesday I believe. Got an email from Prometric. Was supposed to take it Friday but had to reschedule. | |
| lucidreality 2003-08-11, 10:10 am |
| I am taking the Exam in 1 hour (expecting to fail). I will let you know how it went. | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-08-11, 10:52 am |
| Good luck everyone, keep us posted. We are all itchin' to hear how it went. | |
| lucidreality 2003-08-11, 2:44 pm |
| whew...
6 Case studies 40 minutes a piece.
1 "Who is the PDC emulator" question per case study.
A few DNS and OU Organization questions per study.
Stub Zone and Conditional DNS Forwarders questions.
A VERY long Exam. Not a lot specific to Win 2003.
I will find out if I passed in 8 weeks or so.
Good luck everyone. | |
| ghaouf 2003-08-11, 3:35 pm |
| wow.
how long was the case studies. i am also not expecting to pass, did not have the time to study for it but it sucks that you will know in 8 weeks. but its free
so was the exam hard, or just never ends. 4 hours. | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-08-11, 5:37 pm |
| lucidreality...
Thanks for the status report, we wish you well on passing. It is hard to walk away from the beta exams feeling anything but bewildered. That long of an exam is grueling! I sat the 290 and 291 and both were every bit of the four hours to get through with 85 questions each. | |
| cukong 2003-08-11, 6:22 pm |
| Oh boy,
The exam was hard 
each study case was long and contain tons of details. If I had a good background with MCSE or Network+ maybe I could pass this test. and 8 weeks notification just plain suck. | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-08-11, 6:39 pm |
| Thank you for the update, lucidreality.
Cheers,
TB | |
|
| quote:
Originally posted by hlang
Has received the invitation from MS, but haven't found any testcenter yet supporting the exam
Finally everythings come into term. I will taking the test tomorrow. | |
| ghaouf 2003-08-12, 11:29 am |
| i had the exam today, but i did not go. i fealt realy bad today.
oh well i will try to do it again some day. | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-08-12, 3:16 pm |
| hlang...
Best of luck!!! | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-08-12, 8:06 pm |
| Best of luck to you hlang.
JB, I think I have floundered upon a valid strategy: First some brief review of the material then the purchase of a case of Fat Tire, that way I am stocked up for the time after I sit the exam.
Cheers,
TB | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-08-12, 8:30 pm |
| My gig in Reno included a lot of mental lubricant (alcohol) so I am primed as well! | |
| isles1 2003-08-13, 2:33 am |
| Coming back from Vegas on Wednesday. Finishing off the Delta Guide on the plane, then I sit for the exam Thursday.
Best of luck to all! | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-08-13, 9:57 am |
| Good luck isles1... | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-08-13, 5:43 pm |
| Well this was certainly the easiest of the three beta exams for 2003 that I have taken. lucidreality's description of the exam was pretty much complete, I have nothing to add to it. It was just very reminicient of 70-219, with a few network oriented questions tossed in. I will be very surprised if I find that I did not succeed on this one. As a tip to those that will take this when it comes out for the general public, the materials from the Windows Server 2003 Deployment Guide are what you need to study.
Another thread, about half-way down...
Best of luck to those of you that are still pending!
By the way ghaouf, I am disappointed you did not go. | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-08-13, 7:16 pm |
| While I am not as optomistic about the end result, I'd agree with your assessment, JB.
Cheers,
TB | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-08-13, 11:53 pm |
| cukong...
quote:
8 weeks notification just plain suck.
Hey, it was free! Also you have gotten a lesson more valuable than passing or failing this one. You were part of the process. You studied, you sat it, congratulations. It's even sweeter 8 weeks later. | |
| john94si 2003-08-14, 12:21 am |
| Well my wife had to have suprise surgery.. I am scheduled now for tomorrow..
I am at work and studing some archive stuff on MS.com right now..
4 hours? I will be late for work... oh well i may just leave the test early.. cause im not planning on passing from the stuff I have heard..
But I am still gonna try | |
| isles1 2003-08-14, 12:15 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by jeff_j_black
Good luck isles1...
Thanks JB.
I'm off to the races...I'll post how it went a little later today. | |
| RUSH2112 2003-08-14, 4:59 pm |
| I had to bail on this exam. At work we got CRUSHED with the blaster virus and we have been working for the last couple days to clean up. There is still much work to do, so I had to skip taking this one this morning. Oh well, work is more important... | |
| john94si 2003-08-14, 5:11 pm |
| Well I went and took it.. I was doing great breezed thru part 1 and about half way thru part 2 it crashed..
THe guy was really nice and i knew it was free so and from the stories of it crashing alot.. im ok with it..
I think i would of passed though..
He said one other person was in earlier and his crashed too..
Oh well no MCP for me yet..
guess i neeed to save some $$ for exams.. and finish this stuff.. | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-08-14, 8:42 pm |
| Bummer on the crashing, I figure my exam computer was just barely hanging on by its fingernails. | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-08-14, 9:13 pm |
| The system I was on was a Micron Pentium II, with a Designed for Windows 95 sticker.
Cheers,
TB | |
| Bink63 2003-08-14, 10:10 pm |
| Phew, I'm glad that's over with!
A brief summary:
6 scenarios with 40 minutes alloted to each.
Number of questions per scenario ranged from 11 to 15.
No "ALL" tab to view all interviews in a given scenario on a single page, I had to click through each interview (& sub-interview items) seperately!!
My scenarios all seemed heavy on DNS, DHCP & Organizational structure.
My self-assessment...
I most likely failed
Back to prepping for 216!!!!!
Regards,
Randy | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-08-15, 1:18 am |
| Nice assessment Bink63. Congratulations on taking the exam. This will probably be a good warm-up for 216.
Now let's hear from isles1... | |
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| quote:
Originally posted by Bink63
My scenarios all seemed heavy on DNS, DHCP & Organizational structure.
That was indeed also my experience. Also a little bit about VPN and Radius server/clients. All in all it was hard to find the big differences in regards to 70-219 apart from a completely new graphics look.
Most probably flung. ( I've been used to some extra time in the "normal" test as a "..non english in a non english country" so actually the time ran out in some of the cases.
Good luck to all still awaiting the test.
Henning | |
| isles1 2003-08-15, 6:55 am |
| Well, things went from bad to worse:
Test crashed in the 2nd testlet...it took one hour and a call to Prometric to get it started again where I left off.
Then, I was breezing through this thing. When I got up to about the 10th question in the 5th testlet, the power went out. So thats where I'm at.
I have to call the test center today to see if I will be allowed to finish it up even though yesterday was the last day for the test to be delivered.
No idea if I had any chance in passing this thing, but I would like to finish what I started anyhow.
I will also be calling Prometric to see if I can get a free exam out of this since the test crashed way before the power took the hit.
I'll keep you updated...
P.S. My test was set up like the others: 80 questions, 6 parts. Same objectives as others have mentioned before. Definately a challenge just to read and absorb all the organizational info they throw at you. It seems to be a good test, although some of the drag and drops are lacking proper/clear instructions (unless I totally have no clue about the material which certainly is a possibility). | |
| phazor 2003-08-15, 9:04 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by isles1
Well, things went from bad to worse:
Test crashed in the 2nd testlet...it took one hour and a call to Prometric to get it started again where I left off.
The exact same happened to me yesterday too! except my testing app crashed after each testlet and it would take around 45 sec for each question to load, all together it took me almost 5hrs to complete the test. Im glad that im finnished it though. I dont think I passed.
wayne | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-08-15, 9:50 am |
| Well the votes are in, Time for the test centers to upgrade their equipment, along with the power companies!
Well there's not much I can say in consolation except, that the study effort you put forth will definitely help out in one of your future endeavors. | |
| isles1 2003-08-15, 12:06 pm |
| Got a free voucher from Prometric that I used to schedule the 218 that I need anyway and planned to pay for in the next few weeks, so this worked out well so far.
Some people got a voucher from Microsoft too, but Microsoft directed me to Prometric after Prometric had passed the buck to Microsoft. Not bad for an hour on the phone.
Anyway, have to try to contact my testing center to see if they will attempt to let me finish the beta or not. | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-08-15, 12:25 pm |
| Congrats!!! That is quite a consideration! You did indeed reap a benefit from your attempt. | |
| isles1 2003-08-15, 2:14 pm |
| Went down to my testing center and they have not even been able to bring the servers back up yet.
The facility's guy says at this point MS will likely just write it off based on the circumstances.
Attempting to complete it at this point would likely be a waste of another hour or so since the cut off day was yesterday.
Also, when the center called Prometric yesterday to troubleshoot my exam, the CSR scheduled me for 8/14, 9am in Albany in addition to my 1pm test that was already in progress. Try and figure that one out since I am on Long Island.
Any harm in having a no show on your record? I mentioned the obvious error to another CSR and got little more than a confused response.
Well, at least I got the free exam for the time spent at all this.
Thanks for all who helped along the way. | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-08-15, 4:22 pm |
| That must have sucked isles1, but at the very least you came out ahead.
Cheers,
TB | |
| Bink63 2003-08-15, 4:26 pm |
| I was looking at my candidate history on the Prometric website and according to that, I failed 297.
I'm not sure if that's accurate or not.
Has anyone else checked there?
Regards,
Randy | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-08-16, 6:00 pm |
| I tried logging into 2test.com. got a 404 error.
Tried http://www.register.prometric.com/ and received:
quote:
This site is temporarily down for maintenance. Please check back in a little while.
As a wanna-be script kiddie once said to me:
IT"S A CONSPIRACY BY TEH MAN TO KEEP ME DWON!!!!
Cheers,
TB | |
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| i missed this exam, although i was regestered for this exam on the 11th i was mixed on the dates and thought that the 10th was the 11th and i realy had alot to do on the 10th so i decided not to go, after about 3 days of me not taking it that i relized that i had the dates mixed, boy that is a screw up. | |
| blackwidow 2003-08-25, 11:57 pm |
| I'm actually taking this exam PURELY on the merits of knowing Windows 2000 inside out (mostly for all functional purposes) and having figured out the differences on our network in Windows 2003.
An exam is an exam. How bad can it be?
Taking next week. | |
| isles1 2003-08-26, 9:14 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by blackwidow
I'm actually taking this exam PURELY on the merits of knowing Windows 2000 inside out (mostly for all functional purposes) and having figured out the differences on our network in Windows 2003.
An exam is an exam. How bad can it be?
Taking next week.
How are you taking the 71-297 next week? The last day for the beta was 8/15.
Has the exam gone live? | |
| blackwidow 2003-08-26, 1:10 pm |
| Uh... did i say i was taking 71-297?
"This" exam. as in "i've got this pain in the neck". | |
| isles1 2003-08-26, 1:23 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by blackwidow
Uh... did i say i was taking 71-297?
That's how I read it. Guess I missed something along the way. | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-08-26, 1:52 pm |
| 290, 291, 292 are all available currently.
293, 294 and 296 will be available as of 8/28/2003.
297 has not been announced when it will be released yet.
298 has not been released for beta yet.
Cheers,
TB | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-08-26, 8:55 pm |
| Bink63...
At least from my experience with the transcripts on the VUE website, a fail listed there may not indeed be a fail. Their site listed my status for 71-291 as fail, but when the scores came out I had passed. | |
| ClintonN 2003-08-28, 12:21 pm |
| I had the same thing happen with a Lotus cert I took in May.I just checked it today and it said I passed. I'm very happy now! | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-08-28, 1:04 pm |
| Congrats! | |
| ghaouf 2003-08-28, 6:06 pm |
| i am feeling bad that i did not go for this exam.
i woke up late to begin with i woke up at 10 a.m. and the test was at 11 a.m. i also had relatives at my house and i felt bad to go to the test.
and it was free , i would have woke up at 8 a.m. if i was paying for it.
any ways i will be waiting for the next beta sorry JB i realy was looking forward for this exam, but it was bad timing. | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-08-28, 7:35 pm |
| ghaouf...
You don't owe me any appology. | |
| isles1 2003-10-24, 3:26 am |
| Got my score today: FAILED. I took the test back on 8/14.
Not surprising since I never finished the last quarter of the exam due to the blackout. I am surprised MS even considered the exam for a score.
Anyway, did anyone else get their results yet? Now I am just waiting to the scores from 282 & 284. | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-10-25, 5:07 pm |
| I received the "Congratulations, you failed" letter myself. Ah well, I have written it off as a learning experience.
Cheers,
TB | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-10-30, 6:50 pm |
| Well, finally! And sadly I did not pass. Just checked the VUE website and 'taken' changed to 'fail'. I have not recieved the score report yet. This was a great beta exam learning experience though.
And for those that take it live, the Deployment Planning Guide is a real treat. Lots of great insights from real 2k experiences have filtered back to make the 2003 DPG much more specific and informative. Best of luck to those that take this one in the future! |
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