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Linux certs

Mick Fly

2003-06-24, 12:24 am

Quick question... I hear a lot of people talking about certifying in RedHat
(RHCE), or LPI, L+, etc. I am an MCSE in NT4 and half way thru my 2000
track, and looking onward on what to do next. I've got 5 years experience
as a network administrator (actually first year was PC Tech) and I've always
wanted to learn Linux, but haven't seen or heard of too many companies
running it, aside from hearing it being touted as a growing alternative for
many company IT departments.

So....are a lot of these Linux certifiers just taking exams with no
experience with the software, or are they in fact working in companies that
use it so they've already worked with it ?

And OK, I'll confess, I am tired of working with Microsoft stuff all the
time and want to try supporting something else (but I am nonetheless
grateful to be employed)!

Just wondering...
~McFly

RussS

2003-06-24, 1:25 am

Hey dood

Pretty much you have 2 choices - Comptia Linux+ and RedHat certification.
My understanding is that RedHat certification is considered to be very
difficult compared to Linux+. Personally I will be doing Linux+ more to
show prospective employers that I know what bash is and that I understand
basic command line prompts - I really can not see the need for anything
further.

--
RussS
MCP W2K Pro & Server, A+, Net+

http://www.techexams.net/

JasonW

2003-06-24, 2:24 am

The RedHat RHCE exam also costs around $800, so make sure it is something
you consider worthwhile.
I agree that Linux+ is more applicable for most people to show basic
understanding of installation and configuration of Linux.
I just started studying today and downloaded the objectives from the CompTIA
site.

-JasonW

"RussS" <yeah_right@roflmao.com> wrote in message
news:rsRJa.47446$JA5.831053@news.xtra.co.nz...
> Hey dood
>
> Pretty much you have 2 choices - Comptia Linux+ and RedHat certification.
> My understanding is that RedHat certification is considered to be very
> difficult compared to Linux+. Personally I will be doing Linux+ more to
> show prospective employers that I know what bash is and that I understand
> basic command line prompts - I really can not see the need for anything
> further.
>
> --
> RussS
> MCP W2K Pro & Server, A+, Net+
>
> http://www.techexams.net/
>
>

JasonW

2003-06-24, 2:24 am

I don't think anyone would have much luck trying to pass without getting
their hands on the software, unless they use braindumps. But it will take
about 5 minutes in front of a Linux box to expose someone that did it this
way. It will run on older computers just fine (but even better on newer
ones), so get a test box and install a version of Linux and mess around with
it. I'm using swappable drives so I can switch operating systems quickly.

There are lots of distributions available for free download
(http://www.linuxiso.org/) but have a broadband connection and a lot of
time. Or pick up a copy of RedHat at a Costco or PriceClub. Some things will
be seem similar to MS installs, but a lot will be new territory. It is like
starting over from scratch and being a newbie in many ways. But you'll pick
it up quickly since you have a solid background already. One of my
classmates recommended the Slackware distribution as a good one to start
with, because you have to configure everything and thus gain experience.

Linux+ is a good way to demonstrate that you have core competency in Linux.
The RedHat cert costs around $800, so it is a very specific cert probably
aimed at businesses that are using it.

-JasonW

"Mick Fly" <mcfly@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:kYQJa.230453$VP.48666145@twister.neo.rr.com...
> Quick question... I hear a lot of people talking about certifying in
RedHat
> (RHCE), or LPI, L+, etc. I am an MCSE in NT4 and half way thru my 2000
> track, and looking onward on what to do next. I've got 5 years experience
> as a network administrator (actually first year was PC Tech) and I've
always
> wanted to learn Linux, but haven't seen or heard of too many companies
> running it, aside from hearing it being touted as a growing alternative
for
> many company IT departments.
>
> So....are a lot of these Linux certifiers just taking exams with no
> experience with the software, or are they in fact working in companies
that
> use it so they've already worked with it ?
>
> And OK, I'll confess, I am tired of working with Microsoft stuff all the
> time and want to try supporting something else (but I am nonetheless
> grateful to be employed)!
>
> Just wondering...
> ~McFly
>
>

Dustin

2003-06-24, 11:25 am

Well, since you are still in studying mode (For Microsoft Tests), I
would anticipate the upgrade exams for the MCSE to Server 2003 (while
you have the momentum). Next? I would go for the Linux+ first, just
to give yourself some starting point. It will help you guage whether
you should do the RHCE. Also, as with all CompTIA exams, the Linux+
is a lifetime certification, but the RHCE is versioned, they upgrade
the exams with each release (could be every major release, check up on
that). The RHCE is expensive and difficult, and you have to travel to
a testing location (there are very few). The RHCE is a really good
certification to have if you expected to be extremely competent with
Linux, but the Linux+ would suffice, otherwise. I may do some Linux
cert after I get some Cisco/Security stuff done (CCNA -> Security+ ->
CCSP) and my Microsoft Stuff (MCSA/MCSE on W2K3 and MCDBA).

Dustin
Network+, MCSA/MCSE W2K

NetEng

2003-06-24, 3:24 pm

You can also certify with LPI (www.lpi.org I think). Their tests are much
more comprehensive than CompTia's.

"Mick Fly" <mcfly@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:kYQJa.230453$VP.48666145@twister.neo.rr.com...
> Quick question... I hear a lot of people talking about certifying in
RedHat
> (RHCE), or LPI, L+, etc. I am an MCSE in NT4 and half way thru my 2000
> track, and looking onward on what to do next. I've got 5 years experience
> as a network administrator (actually first year was PC Tech) and I've
always
> wanted to learn Linux, but haven't seen or heard of too many companies
> running it, aside from hearing it being touted as a growing alternative
for
> many company IT departments.
>
> So....are a lot of these Linux certifiers just taking exams with no
> experience with the software, or are they in fact working in companies
that
> use it so they've already worked with it ?
>
> And OK, I'll confess, I am tired of working with Microsoft stuff all the
> time and want to try supporting something else (but I am nonetheless
> grateful to be employed)!
>
> Just wondering...
> ~McFly
>
>

pheonix1t

2003-06-24, 7:24 pm

Mick Fly wrote:
> Quick question... I hear a lot of people talking about certifying in RedHat
> (RHCE), or LPI, L+, etc. I am an MCSE in NT4 and half way thru my 2000
> track, and looking onward on what to do next. I've got 5 years experience
> as a network administrator (actually first year was PC Tech) and I've always
> wanted to learn Linux, but haven't seen or heard of too many companies
> running it, aside from hearing it being touted as a growing alternative for
> many company IT departments.
>
> So....are a lot of these Linux certifiers just taking exams with no
> experience with the software, or are they in fact working in companies that
> use it so they've already worked with it ?
>
> And OK, I'll confess, I am tired of working with Microsoft stuff all the
> time and want to try supporting something else (but I am nonetheless
> grateful to be employed)!
>
> Just wondering...
> ~McFly
>
>
if you are serious about working with linux....visit oreilly.com

ramdayal

2005-01-23, 2:49 pm

Mike ... I remember when Novell was the big gun and Microsoft was learning to swim... today Microsoft is dominatin the beach...and Linux is now learning to swim... as I am typing this message... lots of companies is thinking to migrate or already migrating to Linux...atleast the company that I am working for had already migrate to linux... I love Linux....its a great OS and not restricted to close source....(Something that Microsoft and 3rd party companies that writing codes also) Linux is wonderful and linux is adventurous. they are many LINUX OS out there....but remember Mike... the Kernel is always the same
Ramadayal

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