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| PCportinc 2004-04-19, 12:27 pm |
| Half the people I know with MCSE had their employer pay for the
classes, texts, and tests. The employee had proven him/herself reliable,
and worthwhole keeping and promoting. Certainly the employer could write
off the costs of certs as a business expense, am I right? So it doesnt cost
anyone anything in the long run. It seems to me this is the only way to go as
far
as obtaining expensive certs such as MCSE or CISCO.
However, if the employer demands MCSE and experience to hire, what would
the employee demand as a salary?
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| Dean S. Lautermilch®²ºº³ 2004-04-19, 2:26 pm |
| "PCportinc" <pcportinc@aol.combatSPAM> wrote in message
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> Half the people I know with MCSE had their employer pay for the
> classes, texts, and tests. The employee had proven him/herself reliable,
> and worthwhole keeping and promoting. Certainly the employer could write
> off the costs of certs as a business expense, am I right? So it doesnt
cost
> anyone anything in the long run. It seems to me this is the only way to
go as
> far
> as obtaining expensive certs such as MCSE or CISCO.
> However, if the employer demands MCSE and experience to hire, what would
> the employee demand as a salary?
It was very common when things were hot in IT for companies to pay for
training for people that were worth investing in. I got a few Lotus Notes
classes out of it but declined the MCSE offer as you had to sign an
agreement saying you would pay the money back if you left before a specific
time. I was a contractor and the more certs we had the higher the billing
rate so the more I made for my company.
As an employee, you really can't 'demand' anything in this job market.
Rather than being an added benefit as it once was to a resume, having an
MCSE is more of an accepted requirement for many positions. It will never
have the desirability that it did in the beginning and in the hands of an IT
newbie is worth very little.. If someone is going to pay for you to get it,
take the classes, be happy, and don't expect anything more than keeping your
job and a really cool looking card Microsoft card for your wallet.
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| cybersoldier01 2004-04-19, 2:26 pm |
| The first responder hit it dead on. The days of having employers paying for
your continuing education are over. Now it is certainly expected that you
already have your MCSE (or CCNA/CCNP, or Solaris) under your belt before you
apply. This will be an employer's market for a while to come although I do
see signs that things are starting to improve (if only a little).
"PCportinc" <pcportinc@aol.combatSPAM> wrote in message
news:20040419112016.07875.00000012@mb-m07.aol.com...
> Half the people I know with MCSE had their employer pay for the
> classes, texts, and tests. The employee had proven him/herself reliable,
> and worthwhole keeping and promoting. Certainly the employer could write
> off the costs of certs as a business expense, am I right? So it doesnt
cost
> anyone anything in the long run. It seems to me this is the only way to
go as
> far
> as obtaining expensive certs such as MCSE or CISCO.
> However, if the employer demands MCSE and experience to hire, what would
> the employee demand as a salary?
>
>
>
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| Techie 2004-04-20, 11:26 pm |
| Although I agree that for the most part the days of employer funded training
are over, it is still possible to get. I work for a large multi-national
company that encourages and pays for its employees to continually train in
any field not just IT.
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"cybersoldier01" <cybersoldier01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The first responder hit it dead on. The days of having employers paying
for
> your continuing education are over. Now it is certainly expected that you
> already have your MCSE (or CCNA/CCNP, or Solaris) under your belt before
you
> apply. This will be an employer's market for a while to come although I
do
> see signs that things are starting to improve (if only a little).
>
>
> "PCportinc" <pcportinc@aol.combatSPAM> wrote in message
> news:20040419112016.07875.00000012@mb-m07.aol.com...
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