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| Jonquale 2004-03-27, 6:26 pm |
| I'm looking to enter the IT world. There are so many certificates. Can one
of you please list the IT certificates in order from lowest to highest.
Thanks
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| Dean S. Lautermilch®²ºº³ 2004-03-27, 8:25 pm |
| "Jonquale" <jonquale@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I'm looking to enter the IT world. There are so many certificates. Can one
> of you please list the IT certificates in order from lowest to highest.
> Thanks
For a newbie, certs and even a degree in IT will not help very much.
Experienced IT people with certs and degrees are being dumped on the job
market in droves. Employers can get them for newbie wages for the few open
positions out there so why bother with someone like you? Stay away from IT.
Learn a trade that cannot be sent off-shore. Have you considered being a
plumber?
PGP Key ID: 0x0BB335A8
Fingerprint: 4FEA 661F CB96 383E 3A9F 6CEB 589D C58D 0BB3 35A8
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| You're quite a negative individual  All I can say is, shame.
But yes, to the original poster, if you intend starting in the IT world, at
the beginning your qualifications wont be relevent. You WILL earn crap money
for a few years, and that I think is almost unavoidable. In terms of a
hierarchy, there really isn't one. It depends on what sub-field of IT you
want to enter, and which technologies you want to support. If you want to
support Microsoft networks, then the MCSE is the obvious choice. If you want
to upgrade Cisco routers then do the CCNA. If you want to program, its
completely different. If you want to administer web pages, its completely
different. Saying you want to enter IT, means nothing to us. What do you
want to do in IT? Once you work that out, its either to find some direction.
Mark
"Dean S. Lautermilch®²ºº³" <ftlbard@nospam.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "Jonquale" <jonquale@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> For a newbie, certs and even a degree in IT will not help very much.
> Experienced IT people with certs and degrees are being dumped on the job
> market in droves. Employers can get them for newbie wages for the few
open
> positions out there so why bother with someone like you? Stay away from
IT.
> Learn a trade that cannot be sent off-shore. Have you considered being a
> plumber?
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> PGP Key ID: 0x0BB335A8
> Fingerprint: 4FEA 661F CB96 383E 3A9F 6CEB 589D C58D 0BB3 35A8
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| Hierarchy really depends on what you wish to work with. However I'll give
it a try.
MS world
MCP - virtually any MS exam
MCDST - Help Desk
MCSA*- System Administrator (normally jr level)
MCSE*- Sr System Admin / Engineer / Designer
* There are specializations for Messaging and Security that raise these
certs to slightly higher levels
MCAD - Developer (programmer)
MCSD - Sr. Developer
MCDBA - Database Administrator (works great with either MCSE or MCSD)
CompTIA*
A+ - Help desk / Desktop repair technician (works well with MCDST)
Network+ - Basics of Networking great knowledge to know and should be a
prerequisite for MCSA/SE
i-Net+ - Basics of Internet technologies
Server+ - Basics of Server maintenance (A+ for servers)
Linux+ - Basics of Linux (great beginning Linux cert)
IT Project+ - Basics of Project management
Security+ - Low to mid level security cert. Take only if you're serious
about heading into security.
* Most CompTIA exams are stand-alone, non-vendor specific that play well
with exams from other companies. They are the best place to begin and then
to seek basic knowledge in other areas. Both MS and Novell recognize some
CompTIA exams in lieu of their own.
Novell
CNA - Basic Novell Cert for Administrators think of it as a cross between
MCP and MCSA
CNE - Novell's version of MCSE
MCNE - Your blood is Novell Red. Think MCSE with specializations
Cisco
CCNA - Basic admin cert. works well with MCSA/SE or CNE
CCDA - Basic design cert. Used more with sales
CCNP - Mid level certification. Plays well with MCSE or CNE. This is
professional grade
CCDP - Mid level design cert. You've decided that routers and switches are
your life
CCIE - The gold standard of Routing and such. Very highly prized
ISC2
CISSP - Gold standard for security certifications. Designed for Management
Everything else depends on what you want to work with.
Joe
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"Jonquale" <jonquale@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I'm looking to enter the IT world. There are so many certificates. Can one
> of you please list the IT certificates in order from lowest to highest.
> Thanks
>
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| Studying Hard 2004-03-30, 5:28 pm |
| "Joe" <none@none.com> wrote in message news:<-IqdnQd15JNeuPXdRVn-jw@comcast.com>...[color=blue]
> Hierarchy really depends on what you wish to work with. However I'll give
> it a try.
>
> MS world
> MCP - virtually any MS exam
> MCDST - Help Desk
> MCSA*- System Administrator (normally jr level)
> MCSE*- Sr System Admin / Engineer / Designer
> * There are specializations for Messaging and Security that raise these
> certs to slightly higher levels
>
> MCAD - Developer (programmer)
> MCSD - Sr. Developer
>
> MCDBA - Database Administrator (works great with either MCSE or MCSD)
>
> CompTIA*
> A+ - Help desk / Desktop repair technician (works well with MCDST)
> Network+ - Basics of Networking great knowledge to know and should be a
> prerequisite for MCSA/SE
> i-Net+ - Basics of Internet technologies
> Server+ - Basics of Server maintenance (A+ for servers)
> Linux+ - Basics of Linux (great beginning Linux cert)
> IT Project+ - Basics of Project management
> Security+ - Low to mid level security cert. Take only if you're serious
> about heading into security.
> * Most CompTIA exams are stand-alone, non-vendor specific that play well
> with exams from other companies. They are the best place to begin and then
> to seek basic knowledge in other areas. Both MS and Novell recognize some
> CompTIA exams in lieu of their own.
>
> Novell
> CNA - Basic Novell Cert for Administrators think of it as a cross between
> MCP and MCSA
> CNE - Novell's version of MCSE
> MCNE - Your blood is Novell Red. Think MCSE with specializations
>
> Cisco
> CCNA - Basic admin cert. works well with MCSA/SE or CNE
> CCDA - Basic design cert. Used more with sales
> CCNP - Mid level certification. Plays well with MCSE or CNE. This is
> professional grade
> CCDP - Mid level design cert. You've decided that routers and switches are
> your life
> CCIE - The gold standard of Routing and such. Very highly prized
>
> ISC2
> CISSP - Gold standard for security certifications. Designed for Management
>
> Everything else depends on what you want to work with.
>
> Joe
> --
> Save 25% on Microsoft exams at VUE testing centers by using this voucher
> code: MSUU4C8E3475
>
>
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> "Jonquale" <jonquale@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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I'd say you gave it a good shot. Very well done, ole' chap.
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> "Joe" <none@none.com> wrote in message news:<-IqdnQd15JNeuPXdRVn-jw@comcast.com>...
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> I'd say you gave it a good shot. Very well done, ole' chap.
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| MCSE 2003 2004-04-16, 11:25 pm |
| If you want to enter the IT Market, you should first define what type of
work you want to do.
Microsoft Administration, start with looking at MCP and MCSE certifications
If its Networking you're interested in, look at Cisco
Security, Linux, Unix, programming all have certs as well.
If you're completely new to IT, maybe start with A+ or Network+ Certs.
If you're completely unsure, look at the Comptia and Microsoft Certs first,
then move on once you have more information and grounding in IT.
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"Jonquale" <jonquale@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I'm looking to enter the IT world. There are so many certificates. Can one
> of you please list the IT certificates in order from lowest to highest.
> Thanks
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