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RWC

2004-02-26, 3:26 pm

Hello,

I'm just studying for my MCSE, and I'm going through the procedures in
Chapter 3 of Win2k Server. In the book, on upgrading, it says (in Procedure
3) "I must have a 32 bit operating system installed like Windows 95 or
Windows NT.". Not having win95, I installed Windows 98 on the target
computer. when I ran the "Check Upgrades Only", I got a message that said I
can't install on Windows 98, that I must upgrade to Windows 2000". This is
the thing that is frustrating me, it seems all thoughout this book, there
are items that say "Do this" only to find I can't do it. Is there a
difference between Win 95 and Win 98 that allows server to be installed on
95 and not 98?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you resond to this post, please
remove the caps and underscores from my email address.

Thanks in advance!

Rick


mikefoot2

2004-02-26, 4:26 pm

What Book are you reading ?

you cant upgrade 95 or 98 to windows 2000 server


"RWC" < hemmingway427_NO_SPAM_O_MATIC_
@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:iMr%b.605404$JQ1.346278@pd7tw1no...
> Hello,
>
> I'm just studying for my MCSE, and I'm going through the procedures in
> Chapter 3 of Win2k Server. In the book, on upgrading, it says (in

Procedure
> 3) "I must have a 32 bit operating system installed like Windows 95 or
> Windows NT.". Not having win95, I installed Windows 98 on the target
> computer. when I ran the "Check Upgrades Only", I got a message that said

I
> can't install on Windows 98, that I must upgrade to Windows 2000". This

is
> the thing that is frustrating me, it seems all thoughout this book, there
> are items that say "Do this" only to find I can't do it. Is there a
> difference between Win 95 and Win 98 that allows server to be installed on
> 95 and not 98?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you resond to this post, please
> remove the caps and underscores from my email address.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Rick
>
>



RWC

2004-02-26, 4:26 pm

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the answer. I'm reading the Windows 2000 Server book from
Microsoft Press. The statement I'm reading is on page 116 "Procedure 3:
Running an unattended setup of Windows 2000 Server from Computer2". The
line reads, "Computer 2 must be running a 32 bit operating system, such as
Windows 95 or Windows NT.". This is one of the reasons why reading
Microsoft Press is so frustrating for me. I read in the Windows 2000 Pro
book, the first paragraph on Multiple Displays says "WIndows 2000 supports
extending your disply across a maximum of 9 monitors" yet in the bullet
points below the diagram, the first bullet says "a maximum of 10 monitors".
Drivin' me nuts! Anyway, I'm just wondering if I should bail on these MS
Press books and find a set of Sybex books to use.

Thanks!
Rick


"mikefoot2" <mikefoot2@ic24.net> wrote in message
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> What Book are you reading ?
>
> you cant upgrade 95 or 98 to windows 2000 server
>
>
> "RWC" < hemmingway427_NO_SPAM_O_MATIC_
@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:iMr%b.605404$JQ1.346278@pd7tw1no...
> Procedure
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> I
> is
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>
>



Kirk A. Klentz

2004-02-26, 6:26 pm

Is your Windows 98 partition NTFS? If not you need to convert it. Refer to
page 118 Caution.


"RWC" < hemmingway427_NO_SPAM_O_MATIC_
@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:NYs%b.605526$JQ1.144337@pd7tw1no...
> Hi Mike,
>
> Thanks for the answer. I'm reading the Windows 2000 Server book from
> Microsoft Press. The statement I'm reading is on page 116 "Procedure 3:
> Running an unattended setup of Windows 2000 Server from Computer2". The
> line reads, "Computer 2 must be running a 32 bit operating system, such as
> Windows 95 or Windows NT.". This is one of the reasons why reading
> Microsoft Press is so frustrating for me. I read in the Windows 2000 Pro
> book, the first paragraph on Multiple Displays says "WIndows 2000 supports
> extending your disply across a maximum of 9 monitors" yet in the bullet
> points below the diagram, the first bullet says "a maximum of 10

monitors".
> Drivin' me nuts! Anyway, I'm just wondering if I should bail on these MS
> Press books and find a set of Sybex books to use.
>
> Thanks!
> Rick
>
>
> "mikefoot2" <mikefoot2@ic24.net> wrote in message
> news:103skcfq7vtp22c@corp.supernews.com...
> said
This[color=blue]
> there
installed[color=blue]
> on
> please
>
>



Andy Barkl [MVP]

2004-02-26, 7:26 pm

"RWC" < hemmingway427_NO_SPAM_O_MATIC_
@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:NYs%b.605526$JQ1.144337@pd7tw1no...
> Hi Mike,
>
> Thanks for the answer. I'm reading the Windows 2000 Server book from
> Microsoft Press. The statement I'm reading is on page 116 "Procedure 3:
> Running an unattended setup of Windows 2000 Server from Computer2". The
> line reads, "Computer 2 must be running a 32 bit operating system, such as
> Windows 95 or Windows NT.". This is one of the reasons why reading
> Microsoft Press is so frustrating for me. I read in the Windows 2000 Pro
> book, the first paragraph on Multiple Displays says "WIndows 2000 supports
> extending your disply across a maximum of 9 monitors" yet in the bullet
> points below the diagram, the first bullet says "a maximum of 10
> monitors".
> Drivin' me nuts! Anyway, I'm just wondering if I should bail on these MS
> Press books and find a set of Sybex books to use.
>
> Thanks!
> Rick



Windows client operating systems can't be upgraded to server operating
systems and vice-versa.


Andy Barkl [MVP]

2004-02-26, 7:26 pm

"Kirk A. Klentz" <kklentz@erinet.com> wrote in message
news:103sssgc05lfe8f@corp.supernews.com...
> Is your Windows 98 partition NTFS? If not you need to convert it. Refer to
> page 118 Caution.



Windows 98 does not support NTFS.


Kirk A. Klentz

2004-02-26, 8:26 pm

After I typed that, I remembered that Win9x doesn't support NTFS.

So, why does the book say to convert it to NTFS? Another mistake?

"Caution If you are upgrading from Windows 9x, check to see if your
partition is NTFS. If not, you will need to convert it. You can do this by
typing convert c: /fs:ntfs at the command prompt."

To upgrade an operating system, it has to be Windows NT Server 3.51, Windows
NT Server 4.0 Server or Windows NT Server 4.0 Terminal Server. You can also
upgrade versions prior to Windows NT Server 3.51, but you must first upgrade
to Windows NT Server 3.51 or 4.0.

"Andy Barkl [MVP]" <abarkl@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d_u%b.12379$qL1.179@fed1read02...
> "Kirk A. Klentz" <kklentz@erinet.com> wrote in message
> news:103sssgc05lfe8f@corp.supernews.com...
to[color=blue]
>
>
> Windows 98 does not support NTFS.
>
>



Randall Hall

2004-02-26, 11:26 pm

The statement references using winnt32 vs. winnt.
Winnt32 is the 32 bit installer, and you need a 32 bit OS to run it.
winnt is what you run from the command prompt.

You can not "upgrade" Windows 98 to Windows 2000 Server, but you can
install "dual-boot."

To run the Check Upgrades Only option, you need an OS that a valid
upgrade can be performed from. In the case of Windows 2000 Server, you
need Windows NT 3.5.1 Server or Windows NT 4 Server.


"RWC" < hemmingway427_NO_SPAM_O_MATIC_
@shaw.ca> wrote in
news:iMr%b.605404$JQ1.346278@pd7tw1no:

> Hello,
>
> I'm just studying for my MCSE, and I'm going through the procedures in
> Chapter 3 of Win2k Server. In the book, on upgrading, it says (in
> Procedure 3) "I must have a 32 bit operating system installed like
> Windows 95 or Windows NT.". Not having win95, I installed Windows 98
> on the target computer. when I ran the "Check Upgrades Only", I got a
> message that said I can't install on Windows 98, that I must upgrade
> to Windows 2000". This is the thing that is frustrating me, it seems
> all thoughout this book, there are items that say "Do this" only to
> find I can't do it. Is there a difference between Win 95 and Win 98
> that allows server to be installed on 95 and not 98?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you resond to this post,
> please remove the caps and underscores from my email address.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Rick
>
>


Andy Barkl [MVP]

2004-02-27, 12:26 am

"Kirk A. Klentz" <kklentz@erinet.com> wrote in message
news:103t4h91trnq775@corp.supernews.com...
> After I typed that, I remembered that Win9x doesn't support NTFS.
>
> So, why does the book say to convert it to NTFS? Another mistake?
>
> "Caution If you are upgrading from Windows 9x, check to see if your
> partition is NTFS. If not, you will need to convert it. You can do this by
> typing convert c: /fs:ntfs at the command prompt."
>
> To upgrade an operating system, it has to be Windows NT Server 3.51,
> Windows
> NT Server 4.0 Server or Windows NT Server 4.0 Terminal Server. You can
> also
> upgrade versions prior to Windows NT Server 3.51, but you must first
> upgrade
> to Windows NT Server 3.51 or 4.0.



There is no reason to convert the file system to NTFS prior to upgrading.


mikefoot2

2004-02-27, 10:26 am

if you want to do a unattended inststall

rename unattended.tx to winnt.sif

and copy it to a floppy disk

put win server cd in reboot (boot from cd)

you dont need any operating system

"RWC" < hemmingway427_NO_SPAM_O_MATIC_
@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:iMr%b.605404$JQ1.346278@pd7tw1no...
> Hello,
>
> I'm just studying for my MCSE, and I'm going through the procedures in
> Chapter 3 of Win2k Server. In the book, on upgrading, it says (in

Procedure
> 3) "I must have a 32 bit operating system installed like Windows 95 or
> Windows NT.". Not having win95, I installed Windows 98 on the target
> computer. when I ran the "Check Upgrades Only", I got a message that said

I
> can't install on Windows 98, that I must upgrade to Windows 2000". This

is
> the thing that is frustrating me, it seems all thoughout this book, there
> are items that say "Do this" only to find I can't do it. Is there a
> difference between Win 95 and Win 98 that allows server to be installed on
> 95 and not 98?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you resond to this post, please
> remove the caps and underscores from my email address.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Rick
>
>



mikefoot2

2004-02-27, 2:26 pm

winnt.sif ( below is typical winnt.sif file)


;SetupMgrTag
[Data]
AutoPartition=1
MsDosInitiated="0"
UnattendedInstall="Yes"

[Unattended]
UnattendMode=FullUnattended
OemSkipEula=Yes
OemPreinstall=No
TargetPath=Windows

[GuiUnattended]
AdminPassword=password
OEMSkipRegional=1
TimeZone=4
OemSkipWelcome=1

[UserData]
FullName="My Full Name"
OrgName=My Company Name
ComputerName=*
ProductID="XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX"

[TapiLocation]
CountryCode=1
Dialing=Tone
AreaCode=805
LongDistanceAccess="9"

[SetupMgr]
ComputerName0=Dan
ComputerName1=Benjamin
ComputerName2=Reuben
ComputerName3=Simeon
ComputerName4=Levi
ComputerName5=Judah
ComputerName6=Issachar
ComputerName7=Zebulun
ComputerName8=Naphtali
ComputerName9=Gad
ComputerName10=Asher
ComputerName11=Jacob

[Identification]
JoinDomain=windowsdomain
DomainAdmin=administrator
DomainAdminPassword=adminpass

[Networking]
InstallDefaultComponents=Yes






"mikefoot2" <mikefoot2@ic24.net> wrote in message
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> if you want to do a unattended inststall
>
> rename unattended.tx to winnt.sif
>
> and copy it to a floppy disk
>
> put win server cd in reboot (boot from cd)
>
> you dont need any operating system
>
> "RWC" < hemmingway427_NO_SPAM_O_MATIC_
@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:iMr%b.605404$JQ1.346278@pd7tw1no...
> Procedure
said[color=blue]
> I
> is
there[color=blue]
on[color=blue]
please[color=blue]
>
>



RWC

2004-02-28, 11:25 am


"Andy Barkl [MVP]" <abarkl@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JZu%b.12375$qL1.10413@fed1read02...
> "RWC" < hemmingway427_NO_SPAM_O_MATIC_
@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:NYs%b.605526$JQ1.144337@pd7tw1no...
as[color=blue]
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supports[color=blue]
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>
>
> Windows client operating systems can't be upgraded to server operating
> systems and vice-versa.
>
>


That's not exactly true Andy, but I had to upgrade to Win2k pro before
upgrading to Win2k Server


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