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Is Test King really good to pass exam?
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| Hi There,
I need ur suggestion if any body has used Test king products.Please let me
know how good it is.
As I planing to put some money to buy some exams from they.
Ur suggestion will be appreciated.
saima.
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| mikefoot2 2003-12-21, 4:26 pm |
| Dont waste your money
Good hard learning is much better
why cheat ?
"saima" <saimabashir@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> Hi There,
>
> I need ur suggestion if any body has used Test king products.Please let me
> know how good it is.
> As I planing to put some money to buy some exams from they.
> Ur suggestion will be appreciated.
> saima.
>
>
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| Wayne 2004-01-05, 10:26 pm |
| Mikefoot2:
I'm taking classes at an accredited tech school. It's a 9 month course
dedicated to hands on learning, lectures, and studying for the certification
tests.
As one of the tools to help us prepare for the tests our instructor provides
us with practice test from places like testking and ExactQuestions AFTER we'
ve been through the course for the test we're going to take.
I've got close to 10 years of computer/IT experience and the biggest thing
that's held me back from finding a new job is lack of certifications. I can
't get anyone in my area to even look at me without them.
Do you consider it cheating to use this type of information as an additional
tool for learning? If so, why? I'm not memorizing the test with no prior
knowledge/experience just to pass a test and forget all the stuff I
memorized.
I find that the practice tests reinforce my existing knowledge as I go
through them.
I'm putting in 9 months and boat load of money for these classes so that I
can better myself to get a new job (my old one was outsourced out of the
country). Why should I NOT take advantage of every tool available to me in
order to learn?
"mikefoot2" <mikefoot2@ic24.net> wrote in message
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> Dont waste your money
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> Good hard learning is much better
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> why cheat ?
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> "saima" <saimabashir@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
> news:bs43j3$8d1$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
me[color=blue]
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| "Wayne" <junk@blackrosewebdesign.com> wrote in message
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> Mikefoot2:
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> I'm taking classes at an accredited tech school. It's a 9 month course
> dedicated to hands on learning, lectures, and studying for the
certification
> tests.
>
> As one of the tools to help us prepare for the tests our instructor
provides
> us with practice test from places like testking and ExactQuestions AFTER
we'
> ve been through the course for the test we're going to take.
>
> I've got close to 10 years of computer/IT experience and the biggest thing
> that's held me back from finding a new job is lack of certifications. I
can
> 't get anyone in my area to even look at me without them.
>
> Do you consider it cheating to use this type of information as an
additional
> tool for learning? If so, why? I'm not memorizing the test with no prior
> knowledge/experience just to pass a test and forget all the stuff I
> memorized.
>
> I find that the practice tests reinforce my existing knowledge as I go
> through them.
>
> I'm putting in 9 months and boat load of money for these classes so that I
> can better myself to get a new job (my old one was outsourced out of the
> country). Why should I NOT take advantage of every tool available to me
in
> order to learn?
>
> SNIP>>>>
At last, someone with some common sense!
We've all seen the job ads. 200 user system, one site, 5 printers, min
requirement 10 years experience and an MCSE! Laughable, but that's what the
starting point is today. The cert does show a broad overview of available
Microsoft technologies, but to be a true practised MSCE (say W2K) you are
looking at 1,000's of users, Forests, domains, multi-sites, active
directory, these are few and far between!
Whatever the qualification, certification, degree etc.... it's not worth the
paper it's written on unless you've got some experience.
You need to be confident and comfortable with the relevant subject areas.
Study hard and use whatever resources are available! (but don't mention Test
King, or similar at your interview!)
Good luck!
FP
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| Aaron mC 2004-01-06, 9:25 am |
| A lot of people ridicule Test King, Certkiller and the other cheat
sheet sites but I believe they put in you in a realistic exam
scenario, posing all the favorite ambiguous questions. Some with
correct answers, some with incorrect answers, I believe this is one of
the best real world training options you can get outside of an IT
board meeting. "Does NAT server work with Linux on the 2.6 kernel?"
"Will a Win XP route on a 169IP?" Who knows! But the mere fact that
you have been asked the question forces you to go and research the
proper information instead of just taking on the answers on the
‘belief' that they are correct even though you ‘know' the sites have
no credibility or prestige.
I say use the brain dump sites for additional experience on your
studies, not to study…..
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| Thanks for the responses guys. I guess it really does depend on your
approach to the "practice tests" as to how helpful they actually are.
As I said to begin with I used the testking tests to broaden my knowledge by
researching each test question to find out why the answer was what it was
(and if the GIVEN answer was actually correct) rather than just memorizing
the answer they gave.
I found the tests did help me learn a lot of things in a bit more detail
than we had covered in class.
The difference in approach (memorization verse actually studying and
learning) was pretty obvious today when I found out a fellow student in my
class attempted to simply memorize the test questions and answers over the
weekend.
He took the 70-210 test this morning and failed it.
I passed the test last week on my first try.
Lesson learned; practice tests are good learning tools if you use them to
expand your knowledge, but are bad news if you think you're just going to
memorize the answers and get certified without any real knowledge.
"Aaron mC" <cams0ft@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> A lot of people ridicule Test King, Certkiller and the other cheat
> sheet sites but I believe they put in you in a realistic exam
> scenario, posing all the favorite ambiguous questions. Some with
> correct answers, some with incorrect answers, I believe this is one of
> the best real world training options you can get outside of an IT
> board meeting. "Does NAT server work with Linux on the 2.6 kernel?"
> "Will a Win XP route on a 169IP?" Who knows! But the mere fact that
> you have been asked the question forces you to go and research the
> proper information instead of just taking on the answers on the
> 'belief' that they are correct even though you 'know' the sites have
> no credibility or prestige.
>
> I say use the brain dump sites for additional experience on your
> studies, not to study...
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