alt.certification.mcse - Shift of White-Collar Jobs Overseas

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Shift of White-Collar Jobs Overseas

2003-07-22, 9:25 pm

Wow. I didn't even know there was an effort to unionize IT workers.

Go ahead and call me a pessimist or cynical or whatever comes to
mind... But, I'm gonna go ahead and say it anyway... it's too
little too late.

At least we killed Uday and Qusay today.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm... /> obsoverseas

Smoi

2003-07-23, 5:25 am

"Our competitors are doing it and we have to do it," Tom Lynch, I.B.M.'s
director for global employee relations, said in the call.

i'm very sure they will get to know the effects of doing so very soon!

"It's about investing around the world, including the United States, to
build capability and deliver value as defined by our customers."

yea sure.. there is lot of value

"Once those jobs leave the country, they will never come back," said Phil
Friedman, chief executive of Computer Generated Solutions, a 1,200-employee
computer software company. "If we continue losing these jobs, our schools
will stop producing the computer engineers and programmers we need for the
future."

hmm we all have heard that b4! say sumthing new!!!!!

"You can get crackerjack Java programmers in India right out of college for
$5,000 a year versus $60,000 here," said Stephanie Moore, vice president for
outsourcing at Forrester Research. "The technology is such, why be in New
York City when you can be 9,000 miles away with far less expense?"

now that is very depressing

"J" <kellerj_1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9e6baa08.0307221643.59d5107c@posting.google.com...
> Wow. I didn't even know there was an effort to unionize IT workers.
>
> Go ahead and call me a pessimist or cynical or whatever comes to
> mind... But, I'm gonna go ahead and say it anyway... it's too
> little too late.
>
> At least we killed Uday and Qusay today.
>
>
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...1&u=/nyt/200307
22/ts_nyt/ ibmexploresshiftofwhitecollarj
obsoverseas
>

kyfunguy

2003-07-23, 9:26 am

"Our aim here is not cost-driven," he said. "It's to build a 24/7
follow-the-sun model for development and support. When a software engineer
goes to bed at night in the U.S., his or her colleague in India picks up
development when they get into work. They're able to continually develop
products."

---Yeah right.... not cost-driven.... who do they think they are
kidding....? Ladies and Gentelman... the 20th century was the American
century... remember it with fondness, because it is comming to an end. The
world will be more then happy to let American companies build manufacturing
plants in their countries... take our high-tech jobs, and use it to gain the
upper hand in technology (if you think this is crazy, just think about the
electronics industry, and where most of the consumer electronic goods are
made today)... Before WWII, America was a technological and industrial
powerhouse, and with that industrial might, we were able to out produce any
enemy on the face of the earth... does anyone think that America's might is
anywhere near as strong as it was in the late 30's...?

Some of your fellow citizens are selling your jobs to the lowest bidder,
while lining their own pockets, and telling you that in order to stay
'competitive' (more money for them)... they must shift your work to someone
10,000 miles away.

Be afraid my fellow Americans.... be very afraid....

Yossarian

2003-08-03, 1:25 pm

"J" <kellerj_1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9e6baa08.0307221643.59d5107c@posting.google.com...
> Wow. I didn't even know there was an effort to unionize IT workers.
>
> Go ahead and call me a pessimist or cynical or whatever comes to
> mind... But, I'm gonna go ahead and say it anyway... it's too
> little too late.
>
> At least we killed Uday and Qusay today.
>
>
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...1&u=/nyt/200307
22/ts_nyt/ ibmexploresshiftofwhitecollarj
obsoverseas

The fellow who ratted on them got $30 million for his efforts. It's good
work when you can get it.

Yossarian

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