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Recommendations for SQL 2000 Admin 70-228 textbook ?
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| A.N.Other 2003-06-28, 4:24 pm |
| I'm looking to complete my MCSA with SQL 2000 Admin as the elective.
The thing is, I have precisely nil experience with SQL.
I've just been laid off, so I'm looking to get the MCSA as soon as I
can in the hope that will assist me in finding work again. As a
result, I'm reluctant to buy the usual Microsoft phone book sized
self-study manual, as this will take ages to wade through. Can someone
suggest a good trainer for 70-228 that doesn't assume that you know
the system already, but equally doesn't try to be a full-on reference
manual as well?
Thanks in advance!
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| Andy Foster 2003-06-28, 5:24 pm |
| "A.N.Other" <fred@any.com> wrote in message
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> I'm looking to complete my MCSA with SQL 2000 Admin as the elective.
> The thing is, I have precisely nil experience with SQL.
>
> I've just been laid off, so I'm looking to get the MCSA as soon as I
> can in the hope that will assist me in finding work again. As a
> result, I'm reluctant to buy the usual Microsoft phone book sized
> self-study manual, as this will take ages to wade through. Can someone
> suggest a good trainer for 70-228 that doesn't assume that you know
> the system already, but equally doesn't try to be a full-on reference
> manual as well?
>
> Thanks in advance!
So, you want to pass the exam without all the hassle of actually learning
the product ?
Think having SQL as an elective will help you land a job as a DBA ? With no
experience ?
Go to your room and think about what you've done, and don't come downstairs
until you're ready to apologise.
HTH
Andy
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| Maynard 2003-06-28, 5:24 pm |
| Just use any braindump. Once you are an MCSA you'll be fighting off the job
offers.
"A.N.Other" <fred@any.com> wrote in message
news:bnkpfvgrjoff742os94ma4a8j
gonvp4sfa@4ax.com...
> I'm looking to complete my MCSA with SQL 2000 Admin as the elective.
> The thing is, I have precisely nil experience with SQL.
>
> I've just been laid off, so I'm looking to get the MCSA as soon as I
> can in the hope that will assist me in finding work again. As a
> result, I'm reluctant to buy the usual Microsoft phone book sized
> self-study manual, as this will take ages to wade through. Can someone
> suggest a good trainer for 70-228 that doesn't assume that you know
> the system already, but equally doesn't try to be a full-on reference
> manual as well?
>
> Thanks in advance!
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| Try www.selftestsoftware.com
That's where I get ALL my certification prep materials.First, try the flash
cards, then, for each question, it gives you a detailed explanation of
exactly why the right answer is right and the wrong answers are wrong.
That way, you just have to read what you don't understand. An online mentor
is part of the package too. Within the interface, you can click on MENTOR to
have something fully explained by a live instructor. - All for $99
I hope this helps.
"A.N.Other" <fred@any.com> wrote in message
news:bnkpfvgrjoff742os94ma4a8j
gonvp4sfa@4ax.com...
> I'm looking to complete my MCSA with SQL 2000 Admin as the elective.
> The thing is, I have precisely nil experience with SQL.
>
> I've just been laid off, so I'm looking to get the MCSA as soon as I
> can in the hope that will assist me in finding work again. As a
> result, I'm reluctant to buy the usual Microsoft phone book sized
> self-study manual, as this will take ages to wade through. Can someone
> suggest a good trainer for 70-228 that doesn't assume that you know
> the system already, but equally doesn't try to be a full-on reference
> manual as well?
>
> Thanks in advance!
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| If you have no experience with SQL I would recommend you use an elective
that you do have experience with.
--
vt
"A.N.Other" <fred@any.com> wrote in message
news:bnkpfvgrjoff742os94ma4a8j
gonvp4sfa@4ax.com...
> I'm looking to complete my MCSA with SQL 2000 Admin as the elective.
> The thing is, I have precisely nil experience with SQL.
>
> I've just been laid off, so I'm looking to get the MCSA as soon as I
> can in the hope that will assist me in finding work again. As a
> result, I'm reluctant to buy the usual Microsoft phone book sized
> self-study manual, as this will take ages to wade through. Can someone
> suggest a good trainer for 70-228 that doesn't assume that you know
> the system already, but equally doesn't try to be a full-on reference
> manual as well?
>
> Thanks in advance!
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| A.N.Other 2003-06-29, 6:24 am |
| On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 22:45:05 +0100, "Andy Foster"
<Firstname@FirstnameLastname.com> wrote:
>So, you want to pass the exam without all the hassle of actually learning
>the product ?
>Think having SQL as an elective will help you land a job as a DBA ? With no
>experience ?
>Go to your room and think about what you've done, and don't come downstairs
>until you're ready to apologise.
>
>HTH
>
>Andy
Erm, excuse me??? If I wanted to cheat, I'd just go to a brain dump
site.
As you're doubtless aware, some manuals are good and some are a load
of rubbish. I still want a good one, and am prepared to commit to
studying SQL. All I'm trying to do is avoid getting one of those
manuals that goes into waaaaayyy too much detail because it's trying
too hard to be a full on reference manual at the same time.
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| A.N.Other 2003-06-29, 6:24 am |
| On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 16:29:27 -0700, "vt" <email@email.com> wrote:
>If you have no experience with SQL I would recommend you use an elective
>that you do have experience with.
I could do 70-216, but I hear it's pretty difficult. I could also do
SMS 2.0, but I gather that it's quite an evil exam and it'll probably
expired a lot sooner than SQL. With SQL, I figured I could learn
something new, plus get a longer lasting qualification.
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| Our Man Abu 2003-06-29, 8:25 am |
| If
"vt" <email@email.com> wrote in message
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> If you have no experience with SQL I would recommend you use an elective
> that you do have experience with.
>
> --
If there was ever a product where this is sound advice, SQL Server is it. I
remember some years back a colleague has passed serveral networking
certification exams and on his resume said that certifications in C++ and
SQL Server were "pending" when he had no experience with either. I told him
that I didn't know much about the MCSE side of the equation, but having had
my MCSD, I told him he needed a fair amount of hands on with these products
before he could consider certification. He never did get these certs.
Talking certification without wanting to make the sacrifice of at least
"getting your hands" dirty for a few months is a bad idea.
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| Paul Lynch 2003-06-29, 12:24 pm |
| Hello,
This book is better than most, in my opinion...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...8697421-4736652
Regards,
Paul Lynch
MCSE
A.N.Other <fred@any.com> wrote in message news:< bbgtfv824n73m4kcm5j3tfb4rkqlp8
4pou@4ax.com>...
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 16:29:27 -0700, "vt" <email@email.com> wrote:
>
> >If you have no experience with SQL I would recommend you use an elective
> >that you do have experience with.
>
> I could do 70-216, but I hear it's pretty difficult. I could also do
> SMS 2.0, but I gather that it's quite an evil exam and it'll probably
> expired a lot sooner than SQL. With SQL, I figured I could learn
> something new, plus get a longer lasting qualification.
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| Consultant 2003-06-30, 9:25 am |
| how's aladin?
"Our Man Abu" <gogogogogo999@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> If
> "vt" <email@email.com> wrote in message
> news:uruDf0cPDHA.1908@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > If you have no experience with SQL I would recommend you use an elective
> > that you do have experience with.
> >
> > --
>
> If there was ever a product where this is sound advice, SQL Server is it.
I
> remember some years back a colleague has passed serveral networking
> certification exams and on his resume said that certifications in C++ and
> SQL Server were "pending" when he had no experience with either. I told
him
> that I didn't know much about the MCSE side of the equation, but having
had
> my MCSD, I told him he needed a fair amount of hands on with these
products
> before he could consider certification. He never did get these certs.
> Talking certification without wanting to make the sacrifice of at least
> "getting your hands" dirty for a few months is a bad idea.
>
>
>
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| Iam having a blast with the new set of MCSE / MCSA from MSpress.
the blue one's with the big 2 on them.
Not sure but I think these are the new HLSE from MS.
So I would check these out
"A.N.Other" <fred@any.com> wrote in message
news:bnkpfvgrjoff742os94ma4a8j
gonvp4sfa@4ax.com...
> I'm looking to complete my MCSA with SQL 2000 Admin as the elective.
> The thing is, I have precisely nil experience with SQL.
>
> I've just been laid off, so I'm looking to get the MCSA as soon as I
> can in the hope that will assist me in finding work again. As a
> result, I'm reluctant to buy the usual Microsoft phone book sized
> self-study manual, as this will take ages to wade through. Can someone
> suggest a good trainer for 70-228 that doesn't assume that you know
> the system already, but equally doesn't try to be a full-on reference
> manual as well?
>
> Thanks in advance!
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| Mark Broadbent 2003-07-23, 8:25 am |
| HI A.N. I've read all the replys and I guess my suggestion is to avoid the
SQL exams if you can find another product which you can relate to more.
Both the SQL exams I found were amongst the hardest I have done (although
you dont get scores anymore so you cant really tell), since I like to learn
a product properly I spent a long time studying (longer than any other
exams), and must admit that there is still a hell of a lot of things that I
am learning. In fact many of the SQL MVPs would probably agree that however
much of SQL you learn, there is always something new to find.
Dont let me talk you out of choosing it if thats what you really want to do,
just make sure you can play with the product whilst learning.
Book Recommendations .....I must admit that I have a lot of SQL books,
however you would probably find that getting the SQL Transcender and using
the SQL books online will help you as much as any book
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/techin.../2000/books.asp
Good luck with your employment!
--
BR,
Mark Broadbent mcse+i, mcdba
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"A.N.Other" <fred@any.com> wrote in message
news:bnkpfvgrjoff742os94ma4a8j
gonvp4sfa@4ax.com...
> I'm looking to complete my MCSA with SQL 2000 Admin as the elective.
> The thing is, I have precisely nil experience with SQL.
>
> I've just been laid off, so I'm looking to get the MCSA as soon as I
> can in the hope that will assist me in finding work again. As a
> result, I'm reluctant to buy the usual Microsoft phone book sized
> self-study manual, as this will take ages to wade through. Can someone
> suggest a good trainer for 70-228 that doesn't assume that you know
> the system already, but equally doesn't try to be a full-on reference
> manual as well?
>
> Thanks in advance!
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