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Drasko Ivanisevic

2003-06-25, 7:24 am

What's the passing score for 70-218 test? i know that's pass/fail
mode...but.. approx ...how many correct question is enough to pass?



Drasko Ivanisevic

2003-06-25, 9:25 am

Drasko Ivanisevic wrote:
> What's the passing score for 70-218 test? i know that's pass/fail
> mode...but.. approx ...how many correct question is enough to pass?


I found it!!

Beginning with exams released since December 2001, Microsoft has stopped
providing numerical scores as part of ongoing efforts to protect exam
security and program integrity. Microsoft replaces exam items regularly to
minimize item exposure and to ensure that content remains current. As
content is replaced, any changes in content difficulty are counterbalanced
by changes in the passing score to ensure that consistent standards are used
to certify candidates.

Although this ensures consistency in pass/fail decisions, numerical exam
scores are not comparable across exam versions-a score of 800 on one version
may represent the same skill level as a score of 900 or 700 on another
version. As content is replaced more frequently to combat exam piracy,
numerical scores become meaningless-only the pass/fail status maintains
meaning.

http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/.../procedures.asp







Stuart Robinson

2003-06-25, 10:25 am

> As content is replaced more frequently to combat exam piracy,
> numerical scores become meaningless-only the pass/fail status maintains
> meaning.


I wonder what the real reason for not giving out scores is, do they really
expect intelligent people to fall for that bit of obscurity ?

If they know the pass score and your score they know how much (% wise) you
have passed or failed by, relative to the difficulty.



Stuart.
Drasko Ivanisevic

2003-06-25, 10:25 am

Stuart Robinson wrote:
>> As content is replaced more frequently to combat exam piracy,
>> numerical scores become meaningless-only the pass/fail status
>> maintains meaning.

>
> I wonder what the real reason for not giving out scores is, do they
> really expect intelligent people to fall for that bit of obscurity ?
>
> If they know the pass score and your score they know how much (%
> wise) you have passed or failed by, relative to the difficulty.
>
>
>
> Stuart.


I think its relative from exam to exam .. 75-90% i think


Christopher Holley

2003-06-25, 1:25 pm

It's all a means of control so that one MCSE can't say he's a better MCSE
when comparing scores, as do most little school kids do.


"Stuart Robinson" <Stuartr@nospam.please> wrote in message
news:memo.20030625153359.1092C@srnet.compulink.co.uk...
> > As content is replaced more frequently to combat exam piracy,
> > numerical scores become meaningless-only the pass/fail status maintains
> > meaning.

>
> I wonder what the real reason for not giving out scores is, do they really
> expect intelligent people to fall for that bit of obscurity ?
>
> If they know the pass score and your score they know how much (% wise) you
> have passed or failed by, relative to the difficulty.
>
>
>
> Stuart.



Stuart Robinson

2003-06-25, 2:25 pm

> It's all a means of control so that one MCSE can't say he's a better
> MCSE
> when comparing scores, as do most little school kids do.


Maybe, but do employers or agents ever ask for scores on individual exams
?

Stuart.
Christopher Holley

2003-06-25, 2:25 pm

Come to think of it, I had one IT Manager who I swear to god looked like
Lewis Skolnick out of Revenge of the nerds ask me my scores on every test.
Granted, that I couldn't produce my papers, and I didn't care as long as I
passed and could show my card.


"Stuart Robinson" <Stuartr@nospam.please> wrote in message
news:memo.20030625192247.1260A@srnet.compulink.co.uk...
> > It's all a means of control so that one MCSE can't say he's a better
> > MCSE
> > when comparing scores, as do most little school kids do.

>
> Maybe, but do employers or agents ever ask for scores on individual exams
> ?
>
> Stuart.



sw

2003-07-07, 5:25 am

Also, just because you scored higher on that particular test, doesn't mean
to say that you are a better engineer.... You could have lucked out, or
handle exam stress better....

"Christopher Holley" <chris@customlogos.com> wrote in message
news:FXlKa.1129$Vj.173479050@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> Come to think of it, I had one IT Manager who I swear to god looked like
> Lewis Skolnick out of Revenge of the nerds ask me my scores on every test.
> Granted, that I couldn't produce my papers, and I didn't care as long as

I
> passed and could show my card.
>
>
> "Stuart Robinson" <Stuartr@nospam.please> wrote in message
> news:memo.20030625192247.1260A@srnet.compulink.co.uk...
> > > It's all a means of control so that one MCSE can't say he's a better
> > > MCSE
> > > when comparing scores, as do most little school kids do.

> >
> > Maybe, but do employers or agents ever ask for scores on individual

exams

> > ?
> >
> > Stuart.

>
>



Smoi

2003-07-07, 5:25 am

completely agree..

"sw" <integra_xsi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:KoaOa.3384$9f7.362606@news02.tsnz.net...
> Also, just because you scored higher on that particular test, doesn't mean
> to say that you are a better engineer.... You could have lucked out, or
> handle exam stress better....
>
> "Christopher Holley" <chris@customlogos.com> wrote in message
> news:FXlKa.1129$Vj.173479050@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> > Come to think of it, I had one IT Manager who I swear to god looked like
> > Lewis Skolnick out of Revenge of the nerds ask me my scores on every

test.
> > Granted, that I couldn't produce my papers, and I didn't care as long

as
> I
> > passed and could show my card.
> >
> >
> > "Stuart Robinson" <Stuartr@nospam.please> wrote in message
> > news:memo.20030625192247.1260A@srnet.compulink.co.uk...
> > > > It's all a means of control so that one MCSE can't say he's a better
> > > > MCSE
> > > > when comparing scores, as do most little school kids do.
> > >
> > > Maybe, but do employers or agents ever ask for scores on individual

> exams
> > > ?
> > >
> > > Stuart.

> >
> >

>
>



DenverBob

2003-07-07, 1:26 pm

Last time I checked, there were several versions of each exam. Comparing
scores is a waste of time, as the odds are against two people getting the
same exam. Second, many of the exams no do not give you a score....they
just give you a "pass" or "fail". This is to thwart braindumpers.

Employers NEVER ask for a score. First, MS would never release them. All
MS would tell them is whether or not you are certified. I know this for a
fact, because I contact MS all the time to verify certs of our "would be"
employees. All MS will give an employer is the certification level of
someone. Nothing else. They will not say when you were certified, what
your scores were, what tests you took, etc.. The most I've ever seen an
employer ask for is a printout of the "official" MS transcript from the
secure MCP site. None of these things contain test scores, so don't worry
about it.

--
DenverBob
MCSE/W2K
-------------------------
You probably wouldn't worry about what people think of you if you could know
how seldom they do.

Olin Miller


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